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Old 07-28-2007, 08:11 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

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Fold preflop

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why are all your posts so mindnumbingly bad?

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Call preflop?
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

Not b/fing this turn looks bad (I know I suck, but seems results oriented). Villain could easily be holding a spade here, or other crap, and letting him just check behind on turn is kind of gross.
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:59 PM
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looks good, b/f turn as u did, if he flats and no spade peels shove river. MDMA calls evry1 a gang of mongrels but gives no explanation for why his line is sooooo much better than nearly evry1 elses, ldo
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

i like a turn check because we're folding out better hands a LOT and most of the time getting punked like Fgators did when we're up against a flush.

it may seem weak, but I almost like check-calling the turn and seeing what goes down on the river. if we check the turn and the villain checks again with a queen, we are taking him to valuetown on the river. On the other hand, if we bet the turn, villain is almost always folding his queen unless he has the king or ace of spades to go with it.

Overall, I just feel like a bet too often folds out worse hands and gets action from better hands here.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

For those who say check turn, are you calling a psb both on turn and river?
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:41 PM
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no..
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:55 PM
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What about just the turn?

I think frankly if I'm checking I'm check/folding to a potsized bet on the turn and that just makes me sick inside.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

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What about just the turn?

I think frankly if I'm checking I'm check/folding to a potsized bet on the turn and that just makes me sick inside.

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bad plays make me sick inside too. sometimes.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:00 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

to the people who think bet / folding the turn is even an option...

run some numbers. give opponent credit for a flush X% of the time. evaluate the pot odds. then try to figure if even a small Y% villain can have another hand. also consider most trips are a split. the key point is when behind hero has equity.
another thing. try to create a delicate hand range on the flop, even a predictable/straightforward opponent. then consider how hero's hand looks on the turn. ie. this means the move is to bet.

so the best line is really simple here. you bet, then you call an all in. player description and stacks etc. don't swing this to ANYTHING ELSE.

also, preflop is ok, I prefer 3betting, but I do prefer calling over folding. also, i like hero's bet sizing, i just dont like his fold.

one thing that alot of people dont understand is in general it's OK to put money in behind in poker. i do it all the time! the key is to put it in behind *correctly*.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:01 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Molested at $2/4

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Fold preflop

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why are all your posts so mindnumbingly bad?

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Call preflop?

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lol.

bet/call is pretty terrible imo, its close between check/call and bet/fold, I prefer betting slightly.
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