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Old 12-12-2006, 08:04 PM
sobefuddled sobefuddled is offline
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From whom did you order? If Amazon check your order status. Mine shipped yesterday and I ordered around the same time you did. If elsewhere give them a call.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:38 PM
DrJ DrJ is offline
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I just got the book and it sure looks awesome. Just got through chapter 1, and found an error however. On p17-18 it covers the probability of flopping a flush and says that it's 33/4020.

11/50 * 10/49 * 9/48 = 990/117600. This reduces to 33/3920 and not 33/4020.

Just an FYI...
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:58 PM
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Hi Chuck,

Any idea when it will hit Borders?

Thanks.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:27 AM
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wow is this a deep book. Probly won't be able to drink as much as I'd like while reading it. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:43 AM
Patrick Sileo Patrick Sileo is offline
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Is this the appropriate place for extensive content discussion? So far, I like it and expect it to spawn some lively discussion.

I did pick up one error on page 48. The unconditional probabilities p(A_has_the_nuts) and p(A_has_a_bluff) in the equation for <B,call> should be replaced by probabilities conditional on the event "A_bets".

p(A_has_the_nuts|A_bets) = 0.2/(0.2+x)

p(A_has_a_bluff|A_bets) = x/(0.2+x)

Notice that these will sum to 1. This change leaves the critical value x*=0.04 unaffected, but game value will now be seen to be a non-linear function of x. The primary conclusions don't depend on linearity and are unaffected.

A similar error occurs on page 56 in the expression for <A,call>.

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Old 12-13-2006, 11:33 AM
Shroomy Shroomy is offline
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Read the book.
The game theory discussed apply equally to any game.

I wouldn't be supprised if this book by itself gave us another forum here at 2p2 just for poker game theory.

btw It does give lots of simply stated no limit advice of great value. The problem is that each nugget is scattered throughout the book in the section of where it is explained, and it is rarely included in the end of section key points. It also gives you the reasons (usualy with "proof") behind many of the general guidelines you see quoted here and in many other books.
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:48 AM
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I am just through the first 3 chapters and it is an amazing book. Those that have commented on the math and being pretty easy - it is, and they do an EXCELLENT job of explaining and re-referencing equations, etc. so that you can follow along and get the concepts if the formula looks intimidating.

Great read so far and can't wait to keep going!
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:56 AM
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I wouldn't be supprised if this book by itself gave us another forum here at 2p2 just for poker game theory.


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It would be nice if more of these topics hit the theory forum. All too often the theory forum reads like the poker 101 forum.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:31 PM
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i must say that this growing errata list concerns me, especially if Chen says that they took their time with this.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:38 PM
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Whatever you do, do NOT click on the link this person provides in his profile.
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