pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

[Renton]

Just had fun pokerstoving this.

FWIW (prbly not much), u are about 33% vs his range if he follows through with all his flush draws and never has air.

[fsuplayer]

3bet flop 100% against that villian.

[fslexcduck]

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3bet flop 100% against that villian.

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i'd make it like 425 and snapcall push.

luego u seriously dont see why this is easy 4bet? there's am illion and one draws out there and u dont know which he has obv as you said... so given your history and how much you play back at each other u can get a ton of value from every overpair lik ethis and he'll probably shove his draws as well.

also one thing that is kind of sexy btw is to 3 bet flop and if he just calls, check back a blank turn. it gives him a free card some of the time but it stacks overpairs like always and he bluffs when he misses like 99%

[Renton]

if we figure to make a lot of our money from bluffs, then why is flop a double-plus-insta-wtf-3bet

[fslexcduck]

btw i like 3 betting a lot more with AA if we don't have the Ac so he can instashove nut flush draws

[rand]

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3bet flop 100% against that villian.

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i'd make it like 425 and snapcall push.

luego u seriously dont see why this is easy 4bet? there's am illion and one draws out there and u dont know which he has obv as you said... so given your history and how much you play back at each other u can get a ton of value from every overpair lik ethis and he'll probably shove his draws as well.

also one thing that is kind of sexy btw is to 3 bet flop and if he just calls, check back a blank turn. it gives him a free card some of the time but it stacks overpairs like always and he bluffs when he misses like 99%

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this was a good post and i concur fwiw...

[fslexcduck]

oh one thing i lost my train of thought but the thing about not knowing which draw he has puts us in a bad spot this deep because he can value bet us to death and maybe give up if he misses... so getting all in vs whatever would be preferable obviously.

[luegofuego]

well if i were to play back at him with air/draw in this instance, i would probably do it by just calling flop anyway. im not saying its a bad idea to play back and make it look like im FOS, but if i were to pull a move here, id float his c/r, not 3bet it most of the time anyway.

[fslexcduck]

then shove over any turn bet in that case. i dont know if that's what u did but that's what u should do.

[fsuplayer]

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3bet flop 100% against that villian.

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i'd make it like 425 and snapcall push.

luego u seriously dont see why this is easy 4bet? there's am illion and one draws out there and u dont know which he has obv as you said... so given your history and how much you play back at each other u can get a ton of value from every overpair lik ethis and he'll probably shove his draws as well.

also one thing that is kind of sexy btw is to 3 bet flop and if he just calls, check back a blank turn. it gives him a free card some of the time but it stacks overpairs like always and he bluffs when he misses like 99%

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ok good, thought i was going crazy last night after the responses to my first post.

against villian described, hes prob not folding 99+ or overs+flush draw+combo draws. 3bet/snapcall/fistpumpetc.

and yes, its even more of a 3bet without the Ac.