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11-21-2007, 12:36 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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I think we may be speaking past one another. The reallocation of resources is always inefficient from some subjective set of personal preferences because people have different subjective personal preferences ... I believe this reallocation is necessary. Do you disagree or not? [/ QUOTE ] Reallocate your own money all you want. Have fun. 
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#202
11-21-2007, 12:38 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] How are you coming up with the "right" response faster than the market? For every case of "environmental damage" there may be a "correct" response, but there may also be several incorrect responses (from "experts" no less) that will actually make the situation worse. How is your selection process going to weed these out better than the market does and do so faster? [/ QUOTE ] My selection process is going to be better because decisions are made by various experts (including economists and other social scientists). [/ QUOTE ] You are joking, right? Economists and Social Scientists often disagree on key issues. You talk about black & white or all or nothing, how can you pick what expert is going to have it right? How do you adjust your thinking over time? The market does all these things all the time. The market is not absolute, it is ever changing.
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#203
11-21-2007, 12:57 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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I'm not sure if this means they don't talk about it a lot or if you think they don't want to see it at all. But either way, a free market does not prevent academic research. So the constant talk about how "profit motive isn't good at incentivizing XYZ, therefore freemarket = fail" is fallacious. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't say "free market fails." I said "government succeeds". And the point is "academics not necessarily interested in profit succeed". [ QUOTE ] Then you sue for damages if you actually incur them. You don't premptively assign an expert to tell us both which tree to plant and bill me for half so you can get a cheap rate on something you wanted. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, except when my soil is unusable for 30 years, suing you doesn't do much good, does it?
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#204
11-21-2007, 01:12 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not sure if this means they don't talk about it a lot or if you think they don't want to see it at all. But either way, a free market does not prevent academic research. So the constant talk about how "profit motive isn't good at incentivizing XYZ, therefore freemarket = fail" is fallacious. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't say "free market fails." I said "government succeeds". And the point is "academics not necessarily interested in profit succeed". [ QUOTE ] Then you sue for damages if you actually incur them. You don't premptively assign an expert to tell us both which tree to plant and bill me for half so you can get a cheap rate on something you wanted. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, except when my soil is unusable for 30 years, suing you doesn't do much good, does it? [/ QUOTE ] If you collect a judgement equal to or greater than the land value it compensates you for your loss. If the people responsible are punsihed for their crime civil or criminal they have not gained. Government suceeds? You realize government is a collection of people with differant views and motivations that take money by force from its citizens and spends it in ways for which they are unaccountable, don't you? Has governemnt suceeded in education, welfare, poverty, war on drugs, postal service, health care? I am beginning to think you are punking me. Good job.
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#205
11-21-2007, 01:30 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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If you collect a judgement equal to or greater than the land value it compensates you for your loss. If the people responsible are punsihed for their crime civil or criminal they have not gained. Government suceeds? You realize government is a collection of people with differant views and motivations that take money by force from its citizens and spends it in ways for which they are unaccountable, don't you? Has governemnt suceeded in education, welfare, poverty, war on drugs, postal service, health care? I am beginning to think you are punking me. Good job. [/ QUOTE ] You don't get it, do you? I don't want money, I want my land. There isn't a price that makes me happy, sometimes I just want to meditate under my god damn cherry tree, not buy a BMW and revel in the destruction of my planet. It's within my right to want that, and if it means forcing others to not rape the planet, so be it.
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#206
11-21-2007, 01:41 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] If you collect a judgement equal to or greater than the land value it compensates you for your loss. If the people responsible are punsihed for their crime civil or criminal they have not gained. Government suceeds? You realize government is a collection of people with differant views and motivations that take money by force from its citizens and spends it in ways for which they are unaccountable, don't you? Has governemnt suceeded in education, welfare, poverty, war on drugs, postal service, health care? I am beginning to think you are punking me. Good job. [/ QUOTE ] You don't get it, do you? I don't want money, I want my land. There isn't a price that makes me happy, sometimes I just want to meditate under my god damn cherry tree, not buy a BMW and revel in the destruction of my planet. It's within my right to want that, and if it means forcing others to not rape the planet, so be it. [/ QUOTE ] Is governemnt going to sprinkle its magic government dust on your broken land and heal it?
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#207
11-21-2007, 01:44 AM
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Is governemnt going to sprinkle its magic government dust on your broken land and heal it? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but only if we all convert to socialism first.
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#208
11-21-2007, 01:49 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] If you collect a judgement equal to or greater than the land value it compensates you for your loss. If the people responsible are punsihed for their crime civil or criminal they have not gained. Government suceeds? You realize government is a collection of people with differant views and motivations that take money by force from its citizens and spends it in ways for which they are unaccountable, don't you? Has governemnt suceeded in education, welfare, poverty, war on drugs, postal service, health care? I am beginning to think you are punking me. Good job. [/ QUOTE ] You don't get it, do you? I don't want money, I want my land. There isn't a price that makes me happy, sometimes I just want to meditate under my god damn cherry tree, not buy a BMW and revel in the destruction of my planet. It's within my right to want that, and if it means forcing others to not rape the planet, so be it. [/ QUOTE ] Can you tell me who is raping your land and denying you the use of your land? Can you give an example of anyone this is happening to?
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#209
11-21-2007, 01:58 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you collect a judgement equal to or greater than the land value it compensates you for your loss. If the people responsible are punsihed for their crime civil or criminal they have not gained. Government suceeds? You realize government is a collection of people with differant views and motivations that take money by force from its citizens and spends it in ways for which they are unaccountable, don't you? Has governemnt suceeded in education, welfare, poverty, war on drugs, postal service, health care? I am beginning to think you are punking me. Good job. [/ QUOTE ] You don't get it, do you? I don't want money, I want my land. There isn't a price that makes me happy, sometimes I just want to meditate under my god damn cherry tree, not buy a BMW and revel in the destruction of my planet. It's within my right to want that, and if it means forcing others to not rape the planet, so be it. [/ QUOTE ] Can you tell me who is raping your land and denying you the use of your land? Can you give an example of anyone this is happening to? [/ QUOTE ] Go take your kid for a swim in Lake Charles La. I'm sure you'll enjoy the water and refreshing smells outside the plastics factories. Oh wait, you can't swim there because the local waterways are deemed too hazardous for humans due to toxicity levels. Yet nobody can prove which factory has done what over the years.
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#210
11-21-2007, 11:56 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you collect a judgement equal to or greater than the land value it compensates you for your loss. If the people responsible are punsihed for their crime civil or criminal they have not gained. Government suceeds? You realize government is a collection of people with differant views and motivations that take money by force from its citizens and spends it in ways for which they are unaccountable, don't you? Has governemnt suceeded in education, welfare, poverty, war on drugs, postal service, health care? I am beginning to think you are punking me. Good job. [/ QUOTE ] You don't get it, do you? I don't want money, I want my land. There isn't a price that makes me happy, sometimes I just want to meditate under my god damn cherry tree, not buy a BMW and revel in the destruction of my planet. It's within my right to want that, and if it means forcing others to not rape the planet, so be it. [/ QUOTE ] Can you tell me who is raping your land and denying you the use of your land? Can you give an example of anyone this is happening to? [/ QUOTE ] Go take your kid for a swim in Lake Charles La. I'm sure you'll enjoy the water and refreshing smells outside the plastics factories. Oh wait, you can't swim there because the local waterways are deemed too hazardous for humans due to toxicity levels. Yet nobody can prove which factory has done what over the years. [/ QUOTE ] Is that your lake? If not, who owns it?
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