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Old 07-06-2007, 02:15 PM
brokencarpenter brokencarpenter is offline
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Default Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

Everyone, I've been reading for a while now but this is my first post.

I've been playing/learning for a year maybe, but definitely still a novice, and visited a B&M cardroom two days ago for the first time since I've taken the game seriously. This is what happened:

I won't comment on how the hand progressed, but I end up seeing a flop with A2o in a pot with three players.

Two aces on the flop, so I've got trips.

I check to an aggressive player who bets. Third player folds. I raise. The other guy is figuring out if he wants to go all-in.
He's directly on my left, talking right into my ear, trying to get a read. Then he turns over one of his hole cards, the case Ace. He goes all-in and I eventually fold because he's clearly got to have me out-kicked, but I was wondering about the legality of this. I folded, but my girlfriend, who also plays, says I should have alerted the dealer or the floor and could have been awarded the pot. I don't think so, but I play mostly online with the few cents I've pulled together from freerolls, so I have no idea how this should have been handled.

I played the hand poorly, I know. Just wanting opinions/rulings about the flashed card. Thanks.

Sorry if the format of this post sucks. First one. I'll get better, promise.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

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Everyone, I've been reading for a while now but this is my first post.

I've been playing/learning for a year maybe, but definitely still a novice, and visited a B&M cardroom two days ago for the first time since I've taken the game seriously. This is what happened:

I won't comment on how the hand progressed, but I end up seeing a flop with A2o in a pot with three players.

Two aces on the flop, so I've got trips.

I check to an aggressive player who bets. Third player folds. I raise. The other guy is figuring out if he wants to go all-in.
He's directly on my left, talking right into my ear, trying to get a read. Then he turns over one of his hole cards, the case Ace. He goes all-in and I eventually fold

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<font color="red"> Eventually? </font>
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

In most places you can show cards as long as the pot is heads up.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

I think that what the player with the other ace did was legal in most cardrooms. I have seen a lot of that in Florida NL games and nobody complains. In tournaments this is probably a different story.

Good thing that the guy flashed the ace. Probably saved you some chips.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

Your girlfriend wanted you to be awarded the pot even though you did not have the best hand.

I will self-censor.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

He's directly on my left, talking right into my ear, trying to get a read. Then he turns over one of his hole cards, the case Ace. He goes all-in and I eventually fold because he's clearly got to have me out-kicked, but I was wondering about the legality of this. I folded, but my girlfriend, who also plays, says I should have alerted the dealer or the floor and could have been awarded the pot.

This is very hosue dependent, I have seen some casinos where this could be ruled a dead hand by flashing cards even if its heads up, although i have also been to casinos where when the action is heads up, you can do whatever you want. You should view it this way, you got into a hand with A2, not very strong, you put out a feeler raise, players comes over the top of you, and you fold, very standard. If he doesnt show u the ace he probably stacks you so you should be grateful.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

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I check to an aggressive player who bets. Third player folds. I raise. The other guy is figuring out if he wants to go all-in.
He's directly on my left, talking right into my ear, trying to get a read.

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This is where you show him your ace...
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

No way his hand should be dead. The guy gave you a gift, be happy.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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That's what I figured. Thanks.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Legal? 1/2 NL Flashed hole card

Someone said this situation would be different in a tournament. Is that true? Why?

I feel like there was a hand last WSOP when Jamie Gold flashed a card at the final table and Phil Gordon (this was live coverage of some sort) said he should recieve a penalty.
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