2/4 Im confused

[GrandMelon]

Villain here isnt very good, 24/7 over a few hundred hands, no real reads yet. I havent really gotten out of line so far today. Other 2 villains are unknowns.

Note stack sizes

Line here and for rest of hand please

Poker Stars, $2/$4 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $394
SB: $153.05
BB: $655.50
UTG: $254
UTG+1: $400
MP1: $360
Hero (MP2): $370
CO: $519.40

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls $4, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $16, BB calls $14, UTG calls $14

Flop: ($72) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $28</font>, Hero

[too eazy]

I think I raise and get it in vs UTG and fold vs any funny business vs anyone else. Flatting is OK sometimes too vs this type of opponent.

[Renton]

meh, its a standard call i think.

Calling creates an edge for yourself whereas raising just induces a shove that puts you in a neutral to neg ev spot. Giving him a free card sucks ass, but sb and bb are left to act, and you'll still have a valuable hand on a heart turn since you have Qh.

[veryblind]

I lean towards calling, especially with people left to act. You'll have position either way-whether they call or not.

It's hard to say whether UTG's small bet is trying to induce a raise from you, the PFR, or whether he's trying to set the price for his draw.
Without notes, I would err on the conservative side and let a card peel off.

Assuming HU, if non-heart falls on turn and UTG continues his smallish bet, I'd raise him. If heart falls, I might call a 1/2 pot bet and fold to river bet. Anything else is read dependent for me

[GrandMelon]

ok so I decided to just call

rest look ok?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $394
SB: $153.05
BB: $655.50
UTG: $254
UTG+1: $400
MP1: $360
Hero (MP2): $370
CO: $519.40

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls $4, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $16, BB calls $14, UTG calls $14

Flop: ($72) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28, 2 folds

Turn: ($128) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $48</font>, Hero calls $48

River: ($224) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $120</font>, Hero folds

Results: $224 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG mucked and WON $221 (+$127 NET)

[Renton]

i would prbly call river

i think he'd check or bet ore on the turn with a frush.

urgh what a tough spot.

[holdem2000]

I definitely like the play rest of the hand, 24/7 types don't surprise me when they make another small value bet on the turn here when they hit their flush.

For flop play I agree with most of what was said above but I lean towards raising. I want to firm up SB's/BB's ranges if they stay in the pot, and if my raise isn't too big (maybe to $72) I often milk UTG's AJ/AT or at least charge his draw.

Seems silly for him to be trying to bait you into a raise when it's 4 way with his position... if you're going to bet he might be able to chk/r your larger bet than $28 and potentially have the SB/BB call your bet first, and if you check behind the SB/BB may open the turn allowing him to raise then.