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Old 10-24-2007, 08:16 PM
ratone ratone is offline
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Default $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

This is the 2nd hand of the match, so obviously I have no reads. 1st hand he cold called my raise and folded to my cbet on AJ3 rainbow flop. He is -16% roi on SS with average buyin of $17, but thats only 77 games, and the last 8 games he won only 2 of them.

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Blinds: t15/t30
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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB calls t15 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t1420</font>, Hero ?
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:28 PM
RRiccio RRiccio is offline
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

I never ever fold this.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

This is an easy call .
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

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This is an easy call .

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Old 10-25-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

If his is scope is so poor, why not pick a better spot. He may do that with any number of hands. It's tempting to win the game so early as its the best way to win, but I think you should wait and find a better opportunity to pick him off. Even if he's donking with say 10j or greater you are not a proverbial favorite.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

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If his is scope is so poor, why not pick a better spot. He may do that with any number of hands. It's tempting to win the game so early as its the best way to win, but I think you should wait and find a better opportunity to pick him off. Even if he's donking with say 10j or greater you are not a proverbial favorite.

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This is old and has been laid to rest many times in the past . The point about playing sng's is not about maximizing your win rate . If that's your goal , then quit playing sng's . A better way to analyze the " I'm better than you so I'll wait for a better spot " is to compare your EV/hand or $/h with your expected $/h had you folded and waited for a better spot . Even if you're ahead of his range by a marginal amount ( anything better than the rake) , then it's imperative that you make the call .

Read this related post on the subject .

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=7637184
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

Thanks for the link. Fascinating read.

With regard to the hand posted, what do people think is the weakest hand that OP should call with in that spot?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:42 AM
Gesangsverein Gesangsverein is offline
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

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Thanks for the link. Fascinating read.

With regard to the hand posted, what do people think is the weakest hand that OP should call with in that spot?

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The weakest hand I call here is AK (suited or off suite) and 88 (maybe 77, but I`m not quite sure with that)
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

Honestly, with that record he could have ATC. Of course a heavier weight on AK/AQ and big PP but he really could be on anything. Some players just defy logic.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: $33 NLTRN - 2nd hand, 99 facing limp/shove

77 or 88 and AJs or AQo probably.
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