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Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
2/4 NL on FTP (6 handed)
Effective stacks $370. BB just 3bet us when we raised with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 hands ago. We folded preflop. We raised hand before that and took down pot on c-bet after we flopped FD (this was against a different player but it may be relevant to our image??). Folded to us on BN and we make it $14 with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB 3bets to $40. We make loose [bad] call. ($82) Flop comes T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB checks, we check. ($82) Turn is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. BB bets $80, we shove for $320.... Opinions everywhere please. |
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
this is good if you want to impress the guy who's watching you by shoving ace high into a 3-bet pot and winning
however it's not good if you want to make money |
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
He didn't know I was watching. I was just looking to see if he was playing. I saw the 2 hands right before this, thus the small read/image....
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
seems fine, consider minraising turn instead and calling the shove.
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
[ QUOTE ]
this is good if you want to impress the guy who's watching you by shoving ace high into a 3-bet pot and winning however it's not good if you want to make money [/ QUOTE ] Agreed 100%. Usually when he checks the flop to you it's not with the intention of folding. He probably has a pretty good hand here, but AQ/AK with a club probably makes up a fair portion of his range so if you can make him fold the Ac on the turn than kudos to you. |
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
I told him, if I were going to try and take this pot, I would bet the flop.
Should we be trying to take this pot ever though? |
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
as you noted preflop is inexcusably bad, and once he checks if I feel like I want to try and steal here its probably less spewy to lead the flop after his check then take the line that he did.
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
He isnt folding 89 or 67, neither am I since hero can't really have anything made except 78 here. Its often just a naked high club(AJ KQ AQ), this time its a naked low club.
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
i think this typifies the mess we get in to in 3-bet pots weakly. i thinking betting flop isnt as bad as shoving turn. I think checking it through hope to NOT hit an Ace is all you can do to recover from the pre-mistake which is raising a junk hand like A-5 in the first place.
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Re: Just observed a friend do this....yay or nay?
Seems pretty bad to me, you are dead most every time you are called and probably don't fold out Villain near often enough to make this worth it. Preflop is very bad.
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