I get out of line: hand 1

[surfdoc]

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Sure doesn't seem like he can have anything except for quads.

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I am pretty sure he would just call the turn and let me fire again.

[hicherbie]

woudlnt a player like this call down with A high + pairs?

[surfdoc]

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woudlnt a player like this call down with A high + pairs?

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If you decided to raise A high against a tight reasonable player how would you feel getting insta 3 bet knowing you will have to pay 2 more BB to see a showdown when there is a pretty decent chance you are drawing stone cold dead? Do bad players ever realize they made a mistake on the turn and cut their losses?

[andyfox]

Probably, but maybe not. Anyway, short of quads, it does seem like he can't have anything that can call your 3-bet here.

[bigjoet]

is this chuck the asian guy or chuck the floorman?

[Maliant]

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Probably, but maybe not. Anyway, short of quads, it does seem like he can't have anything that can call your 3-bet here.

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you dont think a 3 is likely here?

[Bad Lobster]

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Decent Oceans daytime 20 game. The villian in this hand is Chuck. He is a pretty awful player with mainly loose passive tendencies and some occasional random aggression thrown in. He is a pretty big target in the game overall and has a healthy fear of me sometimes saying out loud stuff like "oh boy, doc 3 bet look out" before calling 3 cold with JTo.

3 limpers including chuck on the button and I toss in 2 chips from the SB with Qd2d. 5 ways to the flop.

Flop: 7d3d3h.

I check planning on calling or raising but it gets checked through.

Turn: 7c (7d3d3h)

I stab at it and plan to probably c/f the river UI if called. It gets folded all the way to Chuck who raises. I change plans and 3 bet quickly out of the rack in tempo with one of those whole stack minus 4 chip moves. I plan to bet most rivers unless I get some visual info not to.

Can you feel me?

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I can feel sixteen of your chips that you probably won't be needing any more.

[gaming_mouse]

too expensive for liklihood of working

[mike l.]

this is outlandishly bad. first of all you need to bet the flop. you will take it down enough of the time or be able to bet the turn and take it down.

the turn bet is awful because anyone with A high will call you down with ease. dont make the game easy for them.

when chuck raises turns it usually means something he's showing down. by usually i mean almost always. im sensing you got lucky on this one and he randomly was bluffing or mucked a 3 or something else that would never happen enough for you to merit doing this. or you rivered the flush and it was good.

please dont play all backwards like i oftentimes do. just bet the flop, it's a standard profitable smart semibluff.

[ssmallz]

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If you decided to raise A high against a tight reasonable player how would you feel getting insta 3 bet knowing you will have to pay 2 more BB to see a showdown when there is a pretty decent chance you are drawing stone cold dead? Do bad players ever realize they made a mistake on the turn and cut their losses?

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But your not playing against me or any other 2p2er, you're playing against Joe Fish, the same guy that calls down w/K high or bottom pair when you flop a flush or turn a boat. I'd like this play much more if the player you do it against is a 2p2er or tight guy capapble of laying down. The thinking behind this play is great b/c you represent a 7 so well but if your opponent isn't smart enough to think like that then you're representing nothing. The only thing going through his head is, "me have A high or 2pair, me call down"