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Old 10-22-2007, 09:05 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

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*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to spiveydinho [8d Kh]

*** RIVER *** [8h 7d 8c 9h] [9d]
spiveydinho bets $156.45, and is all in
ironollar calls $156.45

I think river sizing was bad and relevant.

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What would you suggest there?

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check

your hand is now a bluff catcher

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This guy was a loose passive station. I feel that loses value to some of his range, which includes some overpairs. I'm not sure he'd bluff counterfeited pairs, but maybe he would.

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check fold or bet weak fold vs a station
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

You really think T9 is that large of his range? That seems way off to me. he may be raising the river with an 8 if we bet weak.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

Some fun from today. Also managed to get my money in real bad in a few spots. Back to 1/2 for me I guess.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $552.35
Hero (SB): $632.60
BB: $1,286.90
UTG: $652.50
MP: $672.80
CO: $116.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $132</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $96

Flop: ($280) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $220</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $420.35 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $200.35

Turn: ($1,120.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($1,120.70) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,120.70 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and WON $1,117.70 (+$565.35 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$552.35 NET)




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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $398
BB: $107.20
Hero (UTG): $801
MP: $137
CO: $522.70
BTN: $476

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $44</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $28

Flop: ($94) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $55</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $214</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $432 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $218

Turn: ($958) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($958) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $958 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$476 NET)
BTN showed J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $955 (+$479 NET)




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HAND #3
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Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $425.60
Hero (BB): $428.70
UTG: $400
MP: $147.50
CO: $172.05
BTN: $457.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6, <font color="red">Hero raises to $44</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $425.60 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $381.60

Flop: ($859.20) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($859.20) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($859.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $859.20 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON $856.20 (+$430.60 NET)
Hero mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$425.60 NET)




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HAND #4
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Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $119.15
BB: $418
Hero (UTG): $492.45
MP: $400
CO: $1,348.30
BTN: $509.50

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($34) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $90</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $220</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $402 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $182

Turn: ($838) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($838) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $838 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Sixes full of Sevens) and WON $835 (+$417 NET)
Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$418 NET)




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HAND #5
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Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $732.40
BTN: $519.50
SB: $76
Hero (BB): $400
UTG: $981.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, UTG calls $36

Flop: ($106) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $84</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $929.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $264 and is All-In

Turn: ($802) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($802) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $802 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$400 NET)
UTG showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Tens) and WON $800 (+$400 NET)




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HAND #6
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Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $820.40
BTN: $104.75
SB: $396
Hero (BB): $404
UTG: $522.15

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $16</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $152</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $404 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $244 and is All-In

Flop: ($792) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($792) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($792) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $792 Pot ($2 Rake)
SB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces) and WON $790 (+$394 NET)
Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$396 NET)
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

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Is this a beat or a brag?

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results are a brag
the fact that you haven't found the right click, "save image as" option on pokergrapher is a hudge beat though

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Oops reading comprehension not my strongpoint.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

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Is this a beat or a brag?

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results are a brag
the fact that you haven't found the right click, "save image as" option on pokergrapher is a hudge beat though

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Huh? I used save image, not sure why you think otherwise...

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He was talking to manupod
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

There are some dirty hands in there, tough luck, Double Eagle.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

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You really think T9 is that large of his range? That seems way off to me. he may be raising the river with an 8 if we bet weak.

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1) it doesn't matter how big a part of his overall range T9 is, it only matters how big a part of his calling range hands that you beat, hands you tie with, and hands that beat you are

2) you are on crack if you think a calling station is going to raise a blocking bet with an 8, or you suck at making reads
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

Brag: up 7 buyins in 2000 hands this afternoon
Beat: down 6.5 buyins in first 1500 hands this morning
Variance: Had to reinstall Pokerstars after going on life tilt inbetween morning and afternoon sesssion and deleteing it from my computer.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

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zekgb,

please stop complaining you top-set-busting monster.

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Your hand was my only favorable cooler of the day.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT 2 (nc)

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You really think T9 is that large of his range? That seems way off to me. he may be raising the river with an 8 if we bet weak.

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1) it doesn't matter how big a part of his overall range T9 is, it only matters how big a part of his calling range hands that you beat, hands you tie with, and hands that beat you are

2) you are on crack if you think a calling station is going to raise a blocking bet with an 8, or you suck at making reads

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He was a station, but still was semi-aggressive. He had a flop AF of 13 and a river AF of 5. I wasn't looking at his stats, but I thought he was capable of that at the time. He still was stationy to make some very questionable calls though with poor holdings.
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