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08-31-2005, 12:04 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Phil Hellmuth says on his DVD that any game $2/4 and under is unbeatable in the long run because of the rake. Phil makes more mony at poker than you do - he knows what he is talking about. [/ QUOTE ] Well that settles it. [/ QUOTE ] I can understand why people think 2/4 in a B&M is unbeatable though. I mean, you have to adjust properly to the game to beat it, and you're still not going to be raking in the dough - a great player would be lucky to make minimum wage. 
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#32
08-31-2005, 12:07 PM
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No, it is true. [/ QUOTE ] Ahahahahahah! No.
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#33
08-31-2005, 12:26 PM
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Phil Hellmuth says on his DVD that any game $2/4 and under is unbeatable in the long run because of the rake. Phil makes more mony at poker than you do - he knows what he is talking about. [/ QUOTE ] this is awesume! the unintentional humor is amazing!
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#34
08-31-2005, 12:43 PM
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Re: Pokerroom boycott!
Hi all,
Just a few clarifications regarding the recently updated PokerRoom.com rake structure. But first of all I hope that all of you bear in mind that basing the rake on Big Blinds instead of Pot Size is an entirely new system designed to equalize the percentage of rake paid by players of various levels. We believe doing so is fair. However, as an entirely new system it may need certain adjustments not spotted in our extensive simulations. 1. The new rake structure tables have been available since yesterday. A link to the new structure was also posted in our news section yesterday. 2. We still incorporate a No Flop No Drop policy. Naturally. The tables will be updated to clarify that. 3. The overall drop in player points received is an effect we did not anticipate, intend nor did it surface during our extensive analysis. The Player Points system will therefore undergo an overhaul to adjust to the new structure and distribute more points. 4. Certainly certain games on certain levels will now have to pay a slightly higher rake than before, but do notice that others will pay way less. All heads-up games as well as high-stakes limit games are obvious examples of this. 5. The new, more dramatic cut-off point in paid rake can unfortunately lead to certain pots being raked around 9-10%. Do note however that these are extreme situations that only occur when a pot reaches a certain, exact size. Examples: Limit 5-10 players 1/2 LEVEL Pot size $11 total rake $0.40 Pot size $12 total rake $1 Pot size $29 total rake $1 2/4 LEVEL Pot size $23 total rake $0.80 Pot size $24 total rake $2 Pot size $48 total rake $2 Finally we do appreciate all of the feedback and comments received from all you 2+2 users. Nothing beats hearing first-hand what the players themselves have to say. C u at the tables! PokerRoom.com Meet Them and Beat Them
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#36
08-31-2005, 12:46 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Maybe this is picking up steam... I am raking (...) it in there tonight bwahaha... :P [/ QUOTE ] I am sure that you know that a game with a high rake structure is UNBEATABLE in the long run. You didn't say what limit you play there, so maybe you can do ok, but for anyone playing $2-4 (maybe other limits too)or below the Pokerroom game with the high rake they have is UNBEATABLE in the long run. [/ QUOTE ] a 2 dollar rake makes 3/6 unbeatable? are you living in insaneo world? rj
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#37
08-31-2005, 12:50 PM
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Just stick it to the mid level casual non professional gambler. Total Bs. Pulling my doe out of Hollywood as soon as i get home. Other sites should take notice. Other forums are rallying also. Unfortunately the casual non professional gambler will probably not even notice.
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#39
08-31-2005, 01:04 PM
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I'd be curious to see some side by side pot vs rake comparision between the "old" rake scheme, and the new on.
Anyone have numbers like that? I'm much more of a visual person.... Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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#40
08-31-2005, 01:07 PM
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Re: Pokerroom boycott!
fixed your post
[ QUOTE ] Hi all, Just a few clarifications regarding the recently updated PokerRoom.com rake structure. But first of all I hope that all of you bear in mind that basing the rake on Big Blinds instead of Pot Size is an entirely new system designed to maximize the percentage of rake paid by players of various levels. We believe doing so is very profitable. However, as an entirely new system we may need to be slightly less greedy to keep our customers. 1. The new rake structure tables have been available since yesterday. A link to the new structure was also posted in our news section yesterday. 2. We still incorporate a No Flop No Drop policy. Naturally. The tables will be updated to clarify that. 3. The overall drop in player points received is an effect we hoped you would not notice, which was obvious without any analysis at all! The Player Points system will therefore undergo an overhaul to adjust to the new structure and distribute more points. 4. Certainly games on most levels will now have to pay a significantly higher rake than before, but do notice some others will pay somewhat less. All heads-up games as well as high-stakes limit games are obvious examples of this. 5. The new, more dramatic cut-off point in paid rake can unfortunately lead to many pots being raked around 9-10%. Examples: Limit 5-10 players 1/2 LEVEL Pot size $11 total rake $0.40 Pot size $12 total rake $1 Pot size $29 total rake $1 2/4 LEVEL Pot size $23 total rake $0.80 Pot size $24 total rake $2 Pot size $48 total rake $2 Finally we do appreciate all of the feedback and comments received from all you 2+2 users. Nothing beats hearing first-hand what the players themselves have to say. C u at the tables! PokerRoom.com Meet Them and Beat Them [/ QUOTE ]
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