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07-19-2007, 11:07 PM
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Re: Live 10/25nl
OK, so it seems most agree with the line I took (dark shove nonwithstanding). Thanks for the replies guys.
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#13
07-20-2007, 01:36 AM
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Re: Live 10/25nl
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If your going to shove dark, why not just shove preflop? [/ QUOTE ] If you shove PF you may not get a call. If you make it 850, look at a flop containing A or K and only then shove, you probably don't get called by worse. If you make it 850 and shove dark, even if the flop has an A or K, you may just get QQ to call because he'll be wondering about the dark shove, right? I actually did the same thing in live 5/10 with the dark shove, flop contained an A and QQ called because he just couldn't beleive he was beat. Had I waited to see the flop no way he calls. Relative stack sizes in my case were a little shorter (80ish BB for me PF I think) which made it easier for me to do but still...
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#14
07-20-2007, 01:49 AM
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Re: Live 10/25nl
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[ QUOTE ] make it 800 and do some live stuff that makes it look like a steal. if anyone calls just shove flop dark. [/ QUOTE ] LOL, this is EXACTLY what I did. Well, almost exactly. Made it 850 pre. UTG+1 called. I shoved dark. Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] He already told you his thoughts...
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#15
07-20-2007, 01:53 AM
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Re: Live 10/25nl
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] make it 800 and do some live stuff that makes it look like a steal. if anyone calls just shove flop dark. [/ QUOTE ] LOL, this is EXACTLY what I did. Well, almost exactly. Made it 850 pre. UTG+1 called. I shoved dark. Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] He already told you his thoughts... [/ QUOTE ] I was addressing everyone else reading the post.
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#17
07-20-2007, 02:17 AM
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Re: Live 10/25nl
The main reason I posted this hand was to see if anyone could make an argument for taking a more passive line in this spot (I never really considered it, and still think the standard/aggro line is correct).
For the results oriented: Flop comes out 8 high. Villain calls for the third time with two black kings.
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#19
07-20-2007, 07:48 AM
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Re: Live 10/25nl
There's 635 in the pot, you have 2500. The opener has a loose range, as well as all the callers? If so, why would a shove indicate AK precisely? We could consider pushing more liberally, and their perception wouldn't be gaining them anything.
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