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Old 10-24-2007, 12:31 PM
Stepping Stone Stepping Stone is offline
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Default NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

NL100 6-max, I have $100.90, no read on table, [T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] on the button.

UTG (has $140) raises to $3.50; and cutoff ($343) calls $3.50;

First question: I chose to call. Is a good mixed strategy with tens here: call - 80%, raise to $13 or so - 20%?

Now, flop comes [K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]].

Two checks to me, I bet pot ($12), UTG re-raises to $48. cutoff folds. I ???


What do you think UTG's range is for this play? Also, what line do you recommend for the rest of the hand?
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

With deadmoney and position, i 3-bet here about 95% of the time....

"Also, what line do you recommend for the rest of the hand?"
He calls here 100% if you push, so i think it's a push or fold decision. Since you can't fold a set here, it's an easy Push.
You're good enough vs his range.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:38 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

Pretty tuff to actually portray an accurate range for an unknown who takes this line. Even if he only takes this line with the tightest of ranges we have to get it in considering the overlay.

Board: Kh Jh Td

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.352% 38.69% 00.66% 32173 552.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 60.648% 59.98% 00.66% 49883 552.00 { KK+, JJ, AQs, AQo }
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

Push here is fine. You are going to be ahead of his range and he is calling 90% of the time.

As far as preflop, I am in between OP and skibbel and think the call/raise ratio is closer to 50/50, depending on table dynamics and players in the hand.
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

Preflop I like to raise a lot once I know the pot is multi-way. I know it turns our hand into a bluff but lets face it we're basically playing for set value on the flop anyway with TT when 2 other people see the flop considering we rarely get a cbet from worse, or a call from worse.

Get it in on the flop and expect to see a draw more often than a better made hand.
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

I think he does this with more hands than just a better set, I would shove the flop, He cud have AhQh, sometiems a QQ but thats prob rare, maybe he did this with AA, some 2 pairs, and top pair + draw, I think you shud sove it in on flop here
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

get it in on the flop

preflop is fine. calling is better than raising against an unknown UTG raiser
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: NL100: bottom set (tens) on a coordinated flop

[ QUOTE ]
Pretty tuff to actually portray an accurate range for an unknown who takes this line. Even if he only takes this line with the tightest of ranges we have to get it in considering the overlay.

Board: Kh Jh Td

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.352% 38.69% 00.66% 32173 552.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 60.648% 59.98% 00.66% 49883 552.00 { KK+, JJ, AQs, AQo }

[/ QUOTE ]
that range looks good to me. Adding in KJ, JT, QQ would make this a definite push.
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