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5/10 live button play. QJs
This is a situation that came up today while I was playing. Everyone limped so 7 players limped. I'm on the button and get QJd. In this situation at a typical small stakes game do I raise knowing everyone will call(has been happening all night) or do I just call. I think raising would be best for the flush or possible straight draws. Any comments.
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
There are some fundamental concepts you seem to be missing there, but other posters who are more eloquent than I can talk about that stuff.
This is a very standard raise because we have a large equity edge. |
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
You raise not because you have the best hand but because QJs "wins more than its fair share"
I believe that quote is direct from SSHE. |
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
I agree, button always raises this even if the BB might 3Bet. Good hand + postion = yeah.
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
raise is fine, call isn't quite as good but if you're on a short roll or newly moved up or whatever you can do that
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
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raise is fine, call isn't quite as good but if you're on a short roll or newly moved up or whatever you can do that [/ QUOTE ] yeah, raising is the highest EV play but it's also higher variance. if you can't handle the swings, calling is profitable but not maximum value. that said, there's alot of variance in limit hold em so you might as well get used to it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
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There are some fundamental concepts you seem to be missing there, but other posters who are more eloquent than I can talk about that stuff. This is a very standard raise because we have a large equity edge. [/ QUOTE ] a LARGE equity edge? |
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
yeah. more like HUDGE.
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
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[ QUOTE ] There are some fundamental concepts you seem to be missing there, but other posters who are more eloquent than I can talk about that stuff. This is a very standard raise because we have a large equity edge. [/ QUOTE ] a LARGE equity edge? [/ QUOTE ] Somebody can poker stove this, but 8 handed against 7 limpers (so assuming nobody has JJ+), you've got to have a large equity edge here against their ranges. As a specific example, I plugged this in: http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=&am...c+6s%0D%0AQc+3c Using those hands (which are totally reasonable holdings I think), you have over 22% equity in an 8 handed pot, plus you have the button! Your "fair share" is only 12.5%, so clearly you are printing money with the raise. When 8 more bets go in, your equity goes up by 1.76 bets. |
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Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs
it's not large but it's noticeable and it helps to be decent postflop. also bad people live limp jj+ and we all know it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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