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Old 08-25-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: TTT 5/T

I think the hand plays itself after the flop.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:52 PM
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I like c/ring the flop here against a thinking player most of the time....but as played I think your line is best. nh.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:19 PM
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i like the entire line. the river c/r is really dynamic tho and if he shoves there are a lot of factors that would go into you estimating the range he puts u on so its really situation dependent leaning towards a call imo

without specific history or a read im not convinced that c/r the flop is the best value line

c the turn is obv. given his flop range contains lots of air and overpairs which he'll bet on the J

leading the river is lame after he checks the turn
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: TTT 5/T

What worse hand plays like this and then calls the river check raise?
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:38 PM
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What worse hand plays like this and then calls the river check raise?

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Q9+? hero is clearly repping a bluff when neither of them usually have a good hand here.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:51 PM
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What worse hand plays like this and then calls the river check raise?

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9T, 99, 96 are about it. This is part of what I was getting at; if we arrive at the river with this line do we still check-raise? He shoved and I folded, in retrospect I think this is a very good line if I just call the river, as weak as it seems.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:04 PM
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What about any of the Tx/Jx hands that he checked the turn with for pot control, then decided that you were FOS when you c/red?
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:20 PM
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hmm, an interesting question would be how to best balance your range such that you can donk this turn with TT. maybe if you call the flop with 55~ and your hand is probably good, but don't want to give a free card & can't take any heat from a draw that he'd bet the turn with? but i guess we'd have to do it very rarely since we also rarely have sets on this board, which makes it hard to implement simply because you'd either forget to do it entirely or probably do it too much.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:23 PM
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hmm, an interesting question would be how to best balance your range such that you can donk this turn with TT. maybe if you call the flop with 55~ and your hand is probably good, but don't want to give a free card & can't take any heat from a draw that he'd bet the turn with? but i guess we'd have to do it very rarely since we also rarely have sets on this board, which makes it hard to implement simply because you'd either forget to do it entirely or probably do it too much.

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it's already balanced by peoples' preconceived notions of what the c/c-lead line means
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:19 PM
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i think this is an interesting hand
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