Missplayed or Bad Beat 50NL

[neil705]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $48.75
Hero (BB): $50.30
UTG: $36.75
MP: $53.45
CO: $67.70
BTN: $51.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($3.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, UTG calls $3.00

River: ($9.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $27.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $45.55</font>, UTG calls all-in for $4.25
Uncalled bet of $13.55 returned to Hero
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to UTG

Pot Size: $73.75 ($3 Rake)

UTG had 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Twos full of Eights) and WON (+$34.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ([Js Ts] a flush, Queen high) and LOST (-$36.75)

[0524432]

It's not necessarily a bad beat as much as it is a semi-cooler.

The river decision to come over the top of his raise is pretty horrible though. How often is he bluff raising you there? How many hands that make that raise on the paired-board river and made flush does a Jhi flush beat? Can't blame you for calling the river raise, because of the dry 8s and lower flushes that do this, but certainly -eV to come over the top. Thats a huge leak that needs attention.

[neil705]

i just did the over the top on river beacuse he had 4$ left if it was more i would have called he was a wild 53/20

[DiamondDog]

Just wondering, as a No-Limit noob, would it be horrible to check/call this river? We have a non-nut flush on a paired board. Or is that just too weak?

[valdiesel]

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i just did the over the top on river beacuse he had 4$ left if it was more i would have called he was a wild 53/20

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I understand that he is 53/20 but what kind of range did u put him on when he raised you?

[popeye18]

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Just wondering, as a No-Limit noob, would it be horrible to check/call this river? We have a non-nut flush on a paired board. Or is that just too weak?

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I think its going to miss alot of value.

As for the 4 dollars left, i would still just call.

[0524432]

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i just did the over the top on river beacuse he had 4$ left if it was more i would have called he was a wild 53/20

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It makes no difference how much $ he has left. That is flawed thought process. By shoving over his river raise, on a paired board with a made flush draw, you are going to loose that $4 the same amount as you would lose any other amount of $.

[0524432]

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Just wondering, as a No-Limit noob, would it be horrible to check/call this river? We have a non-nut flush on a paired board. Or is that just too weak?

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Yea checking the river that makes your hand is missing out on value. However, in my original reply to this post I said I couldn't blame him for CALLING the river raise, if he did that. Although, that doesn't mean calling the river raise is a good play. Just think about how likely it is for the villain to be raising your river bet with a 9hi flush or less? Compare that the the hands he could have you beat with after putting in $ on the flop and turn? (AsXs,KsXs,QsXs, and any full house) This might seem like a small range, but in reality it's not at all. There are a LOT of combinations of AsXs,KsXs, and QsXs.

[panda]

Just calling preflop kinda sucks. Reraise or fold.

[0524432]

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Just calling preflop kinda sucks. Reraise or fold.

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