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03-21-2007, 11:34 AM
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Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
Top 6 pay, and 1st place pays ~8x more than 6th does....
BB is a somewhat-smart LAG running about 35/15. I don't usually post push/fold hands, but I can't seem to get this hand out of my head.... any thoughts? 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:17:49 ET - 2007/03/21 Seat 2: thricer (9,530) Seat 3: View Source (3,430) Seat 4: nando31 (14,685) Seat 5: octaveshift (3,440) Seat 7: 12toes (18,345) Seat 8: jeremymckissick (8,290) Seat 9: djdtucktape (9,780) octaveshift posts the small blind of 250 12toes posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to octaveshift [4s 3d] jeremymckissick folds djdtucktape folds thricer folds View Source folds nando31 folds octaveshift has 15 seconds left to act octaveshift raises to 3,440, and is all in 
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#3
03-21-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
IDC if blinds are 500/1000, BB is not folding ever here, and 43 can only beat 1 thing in most cases, and you know what the odds of him holding that is, haha
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03-21-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
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i would fold because the chipleader is the bb [/ QUOTE ] What range are you shoving here? Top 20%?
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#5
03-21-2007, 12:19 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
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I don't usually post push/fold hands [/ QUOTE ] Orly? I don't think you're quite shallow enough to be pushing 43 into the bb... you have little f/e against chip leader and more than 6xbb left. With no antes, you can affoard another orbit or two to find a better +ev spot imho.
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#6
03-21-2007, 12:22 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
I let that one go. You'll have 5 shots to push before you are back in a blind and every one of them will be better than your 43. And there's not a huge chance you'll push the BB out of the hand IMO.
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03-21-2007, 12:32 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
if he had a smaller stack and would be crippled i usually push here. With his stack i would fold here and wait for better spots
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#8
03-21-2007, 12:33 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
OK, so let's boil it down to 2 questions:
1. What's your shove range vs. the BB in this spot? 2. What does BB's stack need to be for you shove 43o? (I know this can all be solved mathematically, but I am bad with numbers and also at work.... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
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#9
03-21-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
1) QTo or better, you've got some chips left I want a semi-quality hand
2) BB would have to be his all in. I really don't like this spot at all
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#10
03-21-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: Final table of 45-man SNG. Push/fold spot with 43o. Geeeeyah.
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OK, so let's boil it down to 2 questions: 1. What's your shove range vs. the BB in this spot? 2. What does BB's stack need to be for you shove 43o? (I know this can all be solved mathematically, but I am bad with numbers and also at work.... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ) [/ QUOTE ] Against this BB, I am only shoving 77+, AT+ that should kill the math for you. BB should be one of the moderate/avg stacks for you to shove this, BUT EVEN THEN @ 250/500, with 3400 left you need to consider what the other stacks are too, in this case 2 people have about 2x as you and 1 other guy is short as you. EVEN THEN, I will NEVER shove 34 in this spot even if I only have 1500 left, 43 just cant beat anything really, even if you know you need to get lucky, you need to get really lucky.
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