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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
i dont like 3betting flop, we dont want to get stuck here and we polarize him pretty hardcore if we do. this is mostly cause of how deep we are.
tbh, if you thik we lets go of the river relatively frequently, i dont mind the size of the turn bet, provided you shove any river. I think checking riv the way you played it is pretty rough, you're never ahead and he folds a fair amount if he's playing well. i could be way off though. |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
Flop 3bet is pretty good because we get it in vs 9x[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 78[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pretty often and don't get moved off our hand by air and it's good for image and everything.
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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Flop 3bet is pretty good because we get it in vs 9x[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 78[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pretty often and don't get moved off our hand by air and it's good for image and everything. [/ QUOTE ] waaaaay less often than we get it in versus 2-pair/set. I seriously think we are a dog to his All-In range. |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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waaaaay less often than we get it in versus 2-pair/set. I seriously think we are a dog to his All-In range. [/ QUOTE ] agree. |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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we dont want to get stuck here and we polarize him pretty hardcore if we do. [/ QUOTE ] I've seen a lot of use of this new 2+2 fav word "polarize" and its generally ok and understandable but wth does this sentence mean? |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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[ QUOTE ] Flop 3bet is pretty good because we get it in vs 9x[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 78[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pretty often and don't get moved off our hand by air and it's good for image and everything. [/ QUOTE ] waaaaay less often than we get it in versus 2-pair/set. I seriously think we are a dog to his All-In range. [/ QUOTE ]I definately wouldn't go so far as to say getting it in is -ev, but I think calling is better. |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
3betting flop is good because he might fold. and him folding when we have Q high is a very good outcome..
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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3betting flop is good because he might fold. and him folding when we have Q high is a very good outcome.. [/ QUOTE ] youre a better poster than this... |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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[ QUOTE ] 3betting flop is good because he might fold. and him folding when we have Q high is a very good outcome.. [/ QUOTE ] youre a better poster than this... [/ QUOTE ] hmm, is my logic flawed? it seems like 3betting flop is good because of FE, the fact that we widen the range with which we are aggressive in a particular line (which is never a bad thing), and that we sometimes get it in vs a worse draw and have lots of equity. |
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Re: 10/20 - Huge draw deep vs. FTP pro
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[ QUOTE ] Flop 3bet is pretty good because we get it in vs 9x[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 78[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pretty often and don't get moved off our hand by air and it's good for image and everything. [/ QUOTE ] waaaaay less often than we get it in versus 2-pair/set. I seriously think we are a dog to his All-In range. [/ QUOTE ] we might be a slight dog, thats not the point. the point is that we have very, very good EV and there is a pretty big pot sitting in front of us. what happens if you call and the turn comes the 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and he pots it? call and fold river? i'm not saying 3betting is the only possible line, but with these stacks and this board its a pretty reasonable way to make sure you dont do anything thats really, really -EV later in the hand. |
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