Who is a better hitter? (Poll)

[kyleb]

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can we change the poll title to "better player"? that definitely changes my answer.

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No. That's the point!

[Green Kool Aid]

this is REALLY bizarre. my housemate and i got into this argument this summer.

i said dunn.

[Jack of Arcades]

There as different as hitters can be, but they're roughly the same value.

[THAY3R]

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There as different as hitters can be, but they're roughly the same value.

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Same value at the plate?
Or are you factoring in speed and defense?

[lastchance]

Remember Jack, Ichiro's speed allows him to stretch out extra bases and hits Adam Dunn can't (and I believe that shows up on EQA). Dunn's the better hitter, though Ichiro playing RF with his speed clearly makes him the better overall player.

[THAY3R]

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Remember Jack, Ichiro's speed allows him to stretch out extra bases and hits Adam Dunn can't (and I believe that shows up on EQA).

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This evens out by the fact that Dunn's singles and doubles typically advance runners further.

[lastchance]

Good point.

Ah well, who the hell cares if Ichiro's a better hitter or not, he's easily the better player. :P

[Jack of Arcades]

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There as different as hitters can be, but they're roughly the same value.

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Same value at the plate?
Or are you factoring in speed and defense?

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I'm factoring in stolen bases. 44/46 on SBs really makes up a lot of ground. Throw in park factors and you've got similar-value hitters.

[Pudge714]

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There as different as hitters can be, but they're roughly the same value.

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Same value at the plate?
Or are you factoring in speed and defense?

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I'm factoring in stolen bases. 44/46 on SBs really makes up a lot of ground. Throw in park factors and you've got similar-value hitters.

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Not to be a nit, but if were measuring who is a better hitter isn't speed irrelevant?

[Jack of Arcades]

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There as different as hitters can be, but they're roughly the same value.

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Same value at the plate?
Or are you factoring in speed and defense?

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I'm factoring in stolen bases. 44/46 on SBs really makes up a lot of ground. Throw in park factors and you've got similar-value hitters.

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Not to be a nit, but if were measuring who is a better hitter isn't speed irrelevant?

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Not to be a nit, but if were measuring who is a better hitter isn't walking irrelevant?

Baserunning is definitely a part of offensive value.