***yankees official offseason thread*****

[jtg51]

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Yeah, Melky is absurdly underrated.

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This drives me crazy too. Because he's spent the last two years in the majors, everyone ignores the fact that he just turned 23. He's almost a full year younger than Ellsbury. If Melky had spent the last two years playing CF in Triple-A, he'd probably be an untouchable prospect.

[HoyaSaxa123]

I can understand people being upset about losing prospects again for high-priced players, but I think that in this case, it is justified.

One question: After making this trade, while also taking into account the additional moves the Yankees will make to fill up holes for the 2008 season, will they be in good shape to either win the AL East or the AL Wildcard? If so, it is a great deal.

[Thremp]

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I can understand people being upset about losing prospects again for high-priced players, but I think that in this case, it is justified.

One question: After making this trade, while also taking into account the additional moves the Yankees will make to fill up holes for the 2008 season, will they be in good shape to either win the AL East or the AL Wildcard? If so, it is a great deal.

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They're trading winning now at the expense of winning in the future. These trades won't dramatically increase their chances of winning. Crockpot can comment more on this than I can though :/

[HoyaSaxa123]

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I can understand people being upset about losing prospects again for high-priced players, but I think that in this case, it is justified.

One question: After making this trade, while also taking into account the additional moves the Yankees will make to fill up holes for the 2008 season, will they be in good shape to either win the AL East or the AL Wildcard? If so, it is a great deal.

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They're trading winning now at the expense of winning in the future. These trades won't dramatically increase their chances of winning. Crockpot can comment more on this than I can though :/

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They are trading for the best pitcher in the league who is 29 years old. They have the resources to add players who they might need to fill holes in the future. They have legitimate prospects who can contribute greatly in the future. I agree with your point if it was a small-market team and they were trading young talent for a high-priced player, but it's the Yankees.

[Thremp]

And your point? You're trading two young cost controlled league average players who have upside, for the best pitcher in baseball who's going to demand a risky contract extension. This is terrible enough on its own. Throw in another prospect that holds some value and its lollercoaster bad.

[HoyaSaxa123]

My point is that this "risky" contract extension is for one of the the least-risky, most talented pitcher in the league. Throw in another mid-level prospect that would never see the field for the Yankees and it means nothing.

You wouldn't trade two league average players for the best pitcher in a league which is dominated by pitching?

If you are going to say Santana and his contract is risky, then what would you say about Hughes?

[Thremp]

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You wouldn't trade two league average players for the best pitcher in a league which is dominated by pitching?

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I don't know why I'm discussing this with you. But Hughes/Melky are essentially playing for almost free. Both are worth big contracts on the open market.

You're trading a ton of cost controlled years of MLB average players who could develop into star level talent for... the right to a pay a premium to the best pitcher in baseball? And aren't these contracts given to premium pitchers almost all huge flops? Have young pitchers not shown dominance (Verlander, Liriano, King Felix, Joba, Carmona etc etc)?

Whatev.