Brian Griese to start next week

[CharlieDontSurf]

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Your the Green Bay Packers...3-0 average D, Farve looks great, good WRs, dismal to below average o-line. no running game

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I don't think he is a 2nd round pick better than their current RB.

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hes better than anyone ude draft rb wise in the 2nd round in 07.

and gb is gonna have to draft someone i get one in free agency

[PokerFink]

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Consistency would be a huge upgrade for the Bears.

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Over the last dozen games or so, Grossman has been pretty consistant.

[PokerFink]

Re: Michael Turner

If I'm Green Bay, I make that deal in a heartbeat.

Hell, if I'm like half the teams in the league, I make that deal in a heartbeat.

[vixticator]

The Packers running game will come around eventually. Remember when Samkon Gado was putting up some phat numbers there for a while? Their last two games have been against terrible pass defenses, there's no reason to establish a run game against NYG or SD. Just spread 'em out and throw. Same this week against Vikings. No reason to run on a single play the entire game. They cannot defend pass well and have killer run defense.

I lol'd when the Packers hired Mike McCarthy when he was the o-coord of the worst offense in years with the 49ers but not laughing any more. He really seems to be doing a great job.

[Sluss]

This is the Bears funeral. They can't score enough points to make up for a banged up defense with Griese at QB.

[TheNoodleMan]

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Griese is overrated and ran a West Coast offense in Denver and Tampa - remember how great Steve Beuerlein and Bubby Brister were in that offense? He's also overrated because of one season where he had a 19-4 TD-INT ratio - the rest of his career he's been closer to 50-50.

He'll probably be better than Rex Grossman, but expecting anything beyond average is expecting too much.

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Brian Griese has the highest career QB rating in both the Denver and Tampa Bay franchise histories. If their "system" was so easy to put up good QB numbers in, then why has nobody else IN THE HISTORY OF BOTH FRANCHISES ever put up as good of a QB rating?

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Because passer rating is a crappy way to evaluate QBs.

shamelessly stolen from MMQB:

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Johnny Unitas' career quarterback rating: 78.2.

Jeff Blake's career quarterback rating: 78.0.

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[Jack of Arcades]

That isn't a problem with passer rating, it's a problem with comparing quarterback stats across eras. This is mostly due to higher completion percentages, higher touchdowns, and lower interceptions.

[TheNoodleMan]

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That isn't a problem with passer rating, it's a problem with comparing quarterback stats across eras. This is mostly due to higher completion percentages, higher touchdowns, and lower interceptions.

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5 QBs from the same era with nearly identical career passer ratings:

Ken O'Brien: 80.44
John Elway: 79.86
Tony Eason: 79.72
Mark Rypien 78.93
Jim Everett 78.59

O'Brien, Elway and Eason came into the league in '83, Rypien and Everett in '86.

[Jack of Arcades]

John Elway kinda sucked for most of his career, though.

[BigPoppa]

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John Elway kinda sucked for most of his career, though.

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He was only the winningest QB in history until this year, often carrying teams on his back that would've gone 4-12 without him. Yep, he sucked.