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Old 09-08-2007, 10:33 AM
rine rine is offline
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Default \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

I just saw a PLO video from one of the bigger coachingsites. In this video the player claims that "when he sees someone raise utg, he knows he is a losing player". Short time later he gets AQQ9, ace suited, utg, limps, and then folds to a buttonraise. I mean I'm just starting out in PLO and am really unexperienced, but I find that advice rather weak. I posted in the sites forum but the PLO community there seems to be small so I'd like to hear some other oppinions. thx
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

Obv fold, you don't have the nuts
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

what site?
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

When I see someone seeing someone raise UTG and concluding he is a losing player, I know he himself is a losing player.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

yeah that's pretty retarded.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

So thaaaats why I'm a losing player..
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

Yeah wtf -- who said this on what site. What's with the secrecy you can just say it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

is there some reason you didn't say what site/who it was?

obv it's retarded.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

Well, wouldn't think it mattered. Dmunnee from stoxpoker
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"

There's a little kernel of truth to what he says. In a laggy FR game with a few shortstacks, I think you're better off balancing limp-calls with LRRs than just open-raising as raising non-AA hands will get you in a ton of 3-bet pots where over half of effective stacks are committed, and even when you're not 3-bet, you'll still be playing a lot of large pots OOP. And when you do raise AAxx UTG, people are going to put you on that hand a lot.

However, limp/folding AQQ9 to a button raise is ridiculously weak. If you don't think you can profitably play that hand in that situation, your postflop play's too bad to win no matter what you do preflop. Time to give up and learn how to short-stack.
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