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#11
09-08-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
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There's a little kernel of truth to what he says. In a laggy FR game with a few shortstacks, I think you're better off balancing limp-calls with LRRs than just open-raising as raising non-AA hands will get you in a ton of 3-bet pots where over half of effective stacks are committed, and even when you're not 3-bet, you'll still be playing a lot of large pots OOP. And when you do raise AAxx UTG, people are going to put you on that hand a lot. However, limp/folding AQQ9 to a button raise is ridiculously weak. If you don't think you can profitably play that hand in that situation, your postflop play's too bad to win no matter what you do preflop. Time to give up and learn how to short-stack. [/ QUOTE ] Clearly Dmunnee isn't as good as he thinks he is at Omaha. 
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#13
09-08-2007, 09:22 PM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
eh... dunno if I'm getting this right (I'm oh so drunk atm), but, the stoxpoker guy says raising UTG is no matter what a losing play, and all who does that, is indeed a losing player....(?)
I'm stunned, of what BS a coach of a coaching (edit:site can come up with...
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#14
09-08-2007, 09:37 PM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
i checked the top 10 winning players at full tilt 2-4, 5-10 and 200-400 in my database and all of them raise UTG more than 0% of the time.
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#15
09-09-2007, 03:15 AM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
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He plays 6max btw. [/ QUOTE ] lol until this I thought the advice was a bit weak but that you could make a case for it.
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#16
09-09-2007, 03:25 AM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
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[ QUOTE ] He plays 6max btw. [/ QUOTE ] lol until this I thought the advice was a bit weak but that you could make a case for it. [/ QUOTE ] in a full ring game you could probably never raise utg with negligible effect on your winrate (and for a lot of people, it would probably even help). however, you definitely can't conclude that anyone who does raise utg must be a fish.
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#17
09-09-2007, 03:29 AM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
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i checked the top 10 winning players at full tilt 2-4, 5-10 and 200-400 in my database and all of them raise UTG more than 0% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] survivorship bias obviously. Over a small sample size the biggest winners will mostly be those maniacs who sometimes raise UTG, because they tend to play bigger pots. Of course you don't mention that the biggest losers in your DB also raise sometimes UTG.
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#18
09-09-2007, 03:41 AM
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Re: \"When I see someone raise utg, I know he is a losing player\"
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[ QUOTE ] i checked the top 10 winning players at full tilt 2-4, 5-10 and 200-400 in my database and all of them raise UTG more than 0% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] survivorship bias obviously. Over a small sample size the biggest winners will mostly be those maniacs who sometimes raise UTG, because they tend to play bigger pots. Of course you don't mention that the biggest losers in your DB also raise sometimes UTG. [/ QUOTE ] honestly, i can't find anyone who doesn't ever raise utg, winner or loser.
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