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Old 09-04-2007, 06:20 AM
Poker monkey Poker monkey is offline
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

wtf are you guys talking about. LAG play obviously has way more variance than TAG, because you're playing bigger pots.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

not quite - you are playing big pots more often, not bigger pots in terms of big blinds

the question posed, if im reading it correctly, is 'if i play more big pots is my varience reduced??'

its basically the same question 'as if i play more hands of poker is my varience reduced?'

obviously if you play 1 hand a month, your varience will be very high, whereas if you play 10k hands it will be reduced, but over an infinate number of hands there is no way to reduce varience
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:19 AM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

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varience will stay the same over the long term playing LAG or TAG.

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exactly

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this is just not true, unless the "long" term you're talking about is infinite.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

A bigger winner will most likely have larger variance than a smaller winner regardless of type of strategy employed.

The reason for this is that as your average winrate increases all the hands that you don't play will increase the sum of squares. Same will hold true for all the big pots a big winner will have..those will increase variance as your winrate might be something like 0.1bb (per hand of course) while there are a lot of 50-100 bb pots that you have won.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

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A bigger winner will most likely have larger variance than a smaller winner regardless of type of strategy employed.

The reason for this is that as your average winrate increases all the hands that you don't play will increase the sum of squares. Same will hold true for all the big pots a big winner will have..those will increase variance as your winrate might be something like 0.1bb (per hand of course) while there are a lot of 50-100 bb pots that you have won.

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I'd say it's just the opposite?
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

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wtf are you guys talking about. LAG play obviously has way more variance than TAG

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agreed. i dont see how this is being debated.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

Thanks for the responses. I can see now that there is a more to this question than I originaly though. We have to first think about what LAG play in Omaha is really before talking about how it can impact overall variance.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

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but over an infinate number of hands there is no way to reduce varience

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This would be a graph that goes to zero, as the numbers even out, so in effect it is reducing variance.

Basically a graph of 1/X - with X of course being number of hands played and Y axis being "variance"
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

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but over an infinate number of hands there is no way to reduce varience

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This would be a graph that goes to zero, as the numbers even out, so in effect it is reducing variance.

Basically a graph of 1/X - with X of course being number of hands played and Y axis being "variance"

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of course this begs the question does a LAG get to infinity quicker than a TAG, but ill leave that one to better minds than mine.........
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Does LAG play decrese variance?

"but over an infinate number of hands there is no way to reduce varience"
variance -or let's call it swings- will always be there, even tho those swings in an infinite number of hands will equal out to an all over straight line. Taking a lot of flips and gambles will increase the frequency of those swings while a more pot controlling style will lower that frequency.. Variance is a concept where short/longer term luck dominates, and even tho it'll flatten out in an infinite perspective, infinite will still be a whole, of several short and longer periods containing swings (variance)....
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