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AA gets donked on drawy flop
From past experience I have found I have little folding equity on flops like these.
He either has 2 pair, set or some draw/combo looking to b3b ai. Do I raise and fold? Just call? Do I want to felt on this flop? Half the deck is scary on the turn. Thanks. Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $55.15 BB: $49.35 UTG: $44.90 Hero (MP): $52.45 CO: $54.50 BTN: $57.65 Reads: <font color="blue">Not much. He's a typical 23/16 player.</font> Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players) UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25 Flop: ($5.25) (3 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $4.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero?? |
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
Hard to tell what to do unless we can actually see the cards.
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
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Hard to tell what to do unless we can actually see the cards. [/ QUOTE ] I've used lego converter and it's always worked for me. If not, I have AhAd and the board is 7s6s5h. SB leads $4 into $5. 100bb. |
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
Bump this thread, becuase I'd also like to know what other people would do on a hand like this. I think that sometimes with a lower pocket pair or over pair people will try to semi-bluff into this type of board and take down the pot on the flop. I would probably call and see if he fires a second barrel on the turn. But don't take my word for that.
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
That's a pretty scary bet, since he's OOP and has two behind.
From his preflop call we can deduce he has something like Axs, and a mid-PP up to TT, since it is likely he'll raise JJ+. vs. any set on that flop, you're about an 85% underdog. vs. something like A8ss, you're a 60/40 underdog vs. 88, you're a 60/40 favorite. vs. AQss, you're a 60/40 favorite. I don't see what other hands he would do this with. I might call the flop and see what he does on the turn. Any other connecting cards/ near PSB on the turn and I'd probably fold. |
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
villian never has a set here. hardly ever. i don't want to fold this
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
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villian never has a set here. hardly ever. i don't want to fold this [/ QUOTE ] I think a set/two pair is def in his range. Why shouldn't he lead the flop with a set on that drawy board? But this could also be a semi-bluff very often. Depending on your read and how agressive villain is I'd raise and fold to a shove here but maybe thats a leak. |
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
I am definately raising and folding to a shove, I would expect to see 2pair/set very often if we get it all in on the flop.
If he calls I am checking behind on the river and possibly calling a river bet. |
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
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[ QUOTE ] villian never has a set here. hardly ever. i don't want to fold this [/ QUOTE ] I think a set/two pair is def in his range. Why shouldn't he lead the flop with a set on that drawy board? But this could also be a semi-bluff very often. Depending on your read and how agressive villain is I'd raise and fold to a shove here but maybe thats a leak. [/ QUOTE ] villians at this level won't lead sets often, in my experience. i don't know if i like raising and folding to a shove that much either, b/c it seems like that line wins the least from hands we beat, and we still fold the best hand some of the time, as combo draws are probably willing to get all in here as well as 2 pair/set type hands |
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Re: AA gets donked on drawy flop
Actually...there was a good thread a week or so ago about why calling here and being aggressive on the turn is a good move because any equity he has with a combo draw shrinks significantly after the turn bricks.
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