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Old 03-02-2007, 02:00 AM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

How is this? Villain is 29/15 and pretty straightforward. Note he has 50bbs to start the hand.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($199.85)
BB ($447.87)
UTG ($96.92)
MP ($227)
Button ($302.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $28</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $75</font>, MP folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $114
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

push, win coinflip (or hit two outer), profit.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

fold. i would also call pf alot given stacks/player. i typically wont rr JJ pf against an utg raise unless he sucks.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

push
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

push is pure spew...there is like 1 hand you beat. Fold please.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

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push is pure spew...there is like 1 hand you beat. Fold please.

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and not even by much... fold.

i have pushed if i've been ridiculously 3-betting this guy, but I'd need a damn good read.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

I push here at my home game cause they are 3betting with A10+ and any PP, but I am folding here.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:44 AM
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i do not see how this spot is ugly.....easy fold
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

I pretty much felt JJ every time pf in this spot vs a shortie, unless he's one of the few "smart" shorties. Or he's short because he just lost 50 bb's last hand.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: Really ugly spot with JJ preflop

dont 3-bet JJ here if you dont plan to stack off against UTG.
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