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Old 12-01-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Folding an overfull to river minraise

KT, AQ, pretty much anything if he thinks Wazz is too aggro. Villain really was pretty dumb and made small 3bets and folded to a 4bet on paired boards a lot. He also called a lot with really weak hands like top and bottom pair on monotone boards.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: Folding an overfull to river minraise

good fold, he most probably has them aces.

aggressive factor on a specific street (not preflop) after <200 hands can pretty much be ignored.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:41 PM
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good fold, he most probably has them aces.

aggressive factor on a specific street (not preflop) after <200 hands can pretty much be ignored.

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Can I have your crystal ball?
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: Folding an overfull to river minraise

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aggressive factor on a specific street (not preflop) after <200 hands can pretty much be ignored.

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QFT. I have been burned more times than I can count by using skewed AF stats from not enough hands.

Also, bet % and raise % of a specific street is generally a better measure of how someone plays than aggression factor imo.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM
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aggressive factor on a specific street (not preflop) after <200 hands can pretty much be ignored.

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QFT. I have been burned more times than I can count by using skewed AF stats from not enough hands.

Also, bet % and raise % of a specific street is generally a better measure of how someone plays than aggression factor imo.

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All of this may be true, but hero played the hand like he flopped a straight.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:02 PM
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i call the river
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Folding an overfull to river minraise

I hate the river, since your hand is pretty disguised. He might just be trying to get value with a flush against what he thinks is a flopped straight.


Any chance you were tilting during this hand? It's just an odd line. I mean obv AA or JJ makes sense, but so do quite a few other hands, and it looks like a pure pot odds question.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:43 PM
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I know that there is no way to know but I think his range is ridiculous polarized to AJxx or a stupid value-raise with a flush in this hand... I just feel it..
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: Folding an overfull to river minraise

Not that it contributes much to the analysis, but the hand I expect to see the most here IS AJ with flush draw possibly with a T or K for gut shot to chop.

EDIT: Come to think of it, naked sets dont' make much sense here on the cold turn call. So yeah, if anything, villain's hand is polarized toward the AJ range.
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