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Old 09-28-2007, 03:02 PM
James. James. is offline
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Default River Decision?

6handed.

first orbit, maybe second. BB seems sort of loose and passive. UTG raised earlier with AJo and bet it UI the whole way. lost to A6o that flopped a 6. that's all i know(it was BB in that hand that he lost to).

anyway, UTG raises, i 3bet A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the CO(comments?), folds to BB who calls, UTG caps, we call.

Flop(12.5sb): K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB checks, UTG checks, i bet(comments?), BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn(7.75bb): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

check, check, i check(comments?).

River(7.75bb): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

check, check, and it's on me...

what about how i've played the hand to this point? why are we doing what on the river?
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: River Decision?

james, I think this would make a good play along.

theres too many decisions at once imo
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:54 PM
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james, I think this would make a good play along.

theres too many decisions at once imo

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well, i'm going on a girl scout camping trip tonight so i don't have time for a playalong. even though i need to be packing for a move to a new house among a million other things(razorback game, golf, etc.) i'm taking the oldest daughter(7), middle daughter(5) and the wife to a brownie family camping trip! woohoo!

take it one street at a time if you want. i didn't think there was that much up for debate earlier. maybe i'm wrong.

btw, you people keep things in line while i'm gone tonight. i'll be back in action tomorrow some time. i guess i'll have my blackberry, but damn it's time-consuming.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: River Decision?

In a full ring game I almost always fold AJo to a raise unless I know the raiser is raising very light. In a 6 handed game where the players have adjusted, this is probably ok. If the players have not adjusted, I would fold it to stay out of trouble. You play better post flop, so probably +EV for you.

I like the flop bet. If UTG check raises, I might fold or call and fold the turn UI. Since he didn’t CR, he must have missed the flop or be trying a sick slow play.

I would probably not bet the turn, because the pot is too big, and I think it is unlikely you will be able to fold everyone.

On the river, I don’t see how anyone you beat will call.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:47 PM
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i check the river behind
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:18 PM
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6handed.

UTG raises, i 3bet A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the CO(comments?),

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Meh
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:30 PM
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Preflop I think folding is better than raising. This is a terrible hand to try to isolate with, unless he's so loose we're ahead of a big portion of his range.

Flop bet is reasonable, though I'd fold to a checkraise here for sure.

As played check behind the river.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:37 PM
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I haven't read anything but the original post:

1. I fold this pre-flop. It's just not worth getting your panties all in a bunch over, particularly against an opponent willing to get UI high cards. Once you 3-town it and he caps, you are in deep poo.

2. Good bet on the flop. I mean, you pretty much have to bet there if you want any chance of showing this hand down.

3. On the turn, given your read of BB and the UTG cap, I can't see how betting could win the pot, and you're certainly not ahead. Check behind and hit one of your 7 (very dirty) outs.

4. Well done. You've spiked an ace, which gives you a puncher's chance to win the hand. Betting here would be pretty bad I think. NOTHING you beat calls and a huge portion of UTGs range is sitting on two pair right now. Check behind and collect the pot from red JJ ?
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:56 PM
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i dont mind how you played it at all, i think you have to check river because i dont think anything that beats you is going to fold the way this hand played out, and its hard to believe you can value bet this.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:05 PM
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Flop bet is reasonable, though I'd fold to a checkraise here for sure.

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id never fold 3 and very likely 4 clean outs to the nuts in this pot for 1 SB.
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