*** OFFICIAL 11/25/07 NFL SNF GAME THREAD (PHI @ NE) ***

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I'm only glad if they keep betting the line up to flat-out ridiculous levels week after week. My only regret is not putting a helluva lot more than 1u on Iggs +24.5, cause there's no way that number wasn't WAY off.

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Look at the bright side. Philly's line may be inflated next week.

[NajdorfDefense]

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Off Topic: This is why I think McNabb is way overrated. Every backup for him plays almost as good. Throw a Detmer out there and you have like a 3% DVOA dropoff.

Narrative fallacy FTW it sure is

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They were good with Jeff Garcia as well.

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2006 FO -- DVOA and DPAR measures of some QBs

Peyton 58, 174 [#1 in both]
Brady 19.6, 75.9
McNabb 25.5, 56.7 [#6 DVOA among starters, ahead of Brady]
Garcia 19.6, 27.3 [much worse on same team]

McNabb 2004 35.8, 107.1
"...good QB most of his career, last few years he has been one of the best." ~FO
Matt H -8.8, 7.3
Favre 4.3, 46.7

[NajdorfDefense]

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Anyone that bets against NE at ANY line under 30 deserves what they get imo.

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Awesome. Clearly the Pats should be favored by 30 like you said. I am so sorry I doubted your wisdom.

Also, NVG called, they miss you.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm so glad the NE -30+ fanbois won't ever post here again

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[/ QUOTE ]I like your style

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I'm taking Bal +38 points next week.

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ugh

[Thremp]

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Off Topic: This is why I think McNabb is way overrated. Every backup for him plays almost as good. Throw a Detmer out there and you have like a 3% DVOA dropoff.

Narrative fallacy FTW it sure is

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They were good with Jeff Garcia as well.

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2006 FO -- DVOA and DPAR measures of some QBs

Peyton 58, 174 [#1 in both]
Brady 19.6, 75.9
McNabb 25.5, 56.7 [#6 DVOA among starters, ahead of Brady]
Garcia 19.6, 27.3 [much worse on same team]

McNabb 2004 35.8, 107.1
"...good QB most of his career, last few years he has been one of the best." ~FO
Matt H -8.8, 7.3
Favre 4.3, 46.7

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Explain the Detmer/Garcia/Feeley magic?!?!?

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There's the choke, Philly is known for.

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Off Topic: This is why I think McNabb is way overrated. Every backup for him plays almost as good. Throw a Detmer out there and you have like a 3% DVOA dropoff.

Narrative fallacy FTW it sure is

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They were good with Jeff Garcia as well.

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2006 FO -- DVOA and DPAR measures of some QBs

Peyton 58, 174 [#1 in both]
Brady 19.6, 75.9
McNabb 25.5, 56.7 [#6 DVOA among starters, ahead of Brady]
Garcia 19.6, 27.3 [much worse on same team]

McNabb 2004 35.8, 107.1
"...good QB most of his career, last few years he has been one of the best." ~FO
Matt H -8.8, 7.3
Favre 4.3, 46.7

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Explain the Detmer/Garcia/Feeley magic?!?!?

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The Eagles run two completely different offenses with McNabb vs non-McNabb.

The non-McNabb offense is a better, more balanced offsense. For you stat heads it offsets the stats of a "better" QB.

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What is this 'Detmer magic' of which you speak?

Feeley didn't win any games for the Eagles - the defense won them all, AJ lost to the one good team he played - the Jints. It was on the Fins he beat NWE.

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Also, I agree the play-calling is 110% better with an avg QB back there. It's like they actually try instead of running the same vanilla WC_offense with bad WRs and asking McNabb/Westy to bail them out 16 weeks a year.

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There's the choke, Philly is known for.

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That's not a choke, the better team won. Are you telling me if Feeley doesn't outplay Brady for 60 mins it's a choke?

Must be a level.