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Old 08-11-2007, 10:36 AM
TimberBee TimberBee is offline
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Default 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

No specific reads on villain. Do you bet, and what amount?

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $128
Hero: $210.60
CO: $340.75
Button: $196
SB: $340.95
BB: $56.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($18, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $50</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($160, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets ???</font>
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

Bets $85.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

You can safely bet here, he doesn't have Aces full. Problem is, there may be little value in betting, b/c he's folding underfulls unless he sucks, and a lot of his range consists of missed spades. Still, I'm stupid, so $90 seems good, maybe 44 looks you up here.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

Lol, I bet 85$. I must have some clue after all??

Call a push obv?
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

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You can safely bet here, he doesn't have Aces full. Problem is, there may be little value in betting, b/c he's folding underfulls unless he sucks, and a lot of his range consists of missed spades. Still, I'm stupid, so $90 seems good, maybe 44 looks you up here.

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If his calling/raising range here is 4's full and aces full only, then this would be a terrible river bet. You need him to sometimes call you with a bluff catcher to make this bet profitable.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

That looks such a drawy flop that the only hands fighting with you on that flop are the nut flush draw, the KQT hand or a big ace.
It's possible that he has an ace plus a flush draw, or maybe AKQT that will pay you off. But I see that he must either have no pair or a house here. Maybe pocket fours, AJ does fit though.
I likely check behind with no read, I don't see myself getting paid off.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:56 AM
alavet alavet is offline
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

nono
check it
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

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nono
check it

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weren't you the guy who wanted to raise with the nut flush on a paried board, and now you want to check with a full house on a paired board?
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

With no reads, I think I'd probably check behind. If he's a little bit cally, you can bet and get a call out of AK (or I suppose 44, which just seems pretty unlikely to me). The main reason for checking behind is that the draws here obviously fold 100%, but there are a significant number of hands that beat you that will also call (A4). I do think he had a draw here the majority of the time, but it's the rest of the time that worries me.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Riverbet with non-nut boat?

I'd bet $60. It's pretty thin, b/c the only hand you're likely to get called by that you beat is a draw with an ace that made trips, but I think there's still a little bit of value to be had.
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