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Old 09-22-2007, 11:35 PM
alex-star alex-star is offline
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Default FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

No reads on the opponent - he's a losing player (-5% over 500 games). Did I play it well?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1445
UTG+1: t1405
MP1: t1400
MP2: t1525
MP3: t1260
CO: t1900
Button: t1255
SB: t1810
Hero: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
5 folds, CO calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, Button calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t125)</font>, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t175, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t150</font>, CO folds, Button calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t375)</font>.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t475, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t300</font>, Button calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t775)</font>.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1075, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in t755</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:42 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

no. Why you c/r? c/r is a useful move for getting one bet of value out of a weak hand or air. Is that what you are hoping for on this type of flop with this type of hand? One small bet?

If you feel you need to put a bet out with this strength of hand (for value into tight ranges, or to protect against draws) I'd much prefer to lead the flop. Giving someone a chance to repop us with a weaker hand. Bascally, with the c/r you announce the strength of your hand and allow everyone to play correctly.

As played, you ended up c/r very small? 100 into a 275 pot? Really serves not purpose that I can figure out. If you are worried about draws and are hoping to shut down the action with a c/r, you fail. If you are doing it for value....well, someone that can call a c/r for 150 can call a c/r for a lot more. Maybe even their stack.

As for the rest of the hand, I think you played it fine.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:49 PM
mana013 mana013 is offline
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

I know i gotta be wrong here but i think you were ahead here on the river. I dont think he's calling flop and turn with a flush unless he had maybe a7s or something but i think he'd just fold the turn. I really dont think the 10 helped him either. Is he gonna call 300 with a 9 in his hand hoping the 10 hits on the river? I'm gonna say push river. (i bet i'm the only one that says anything like this. lol)
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:52 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

What do you think he's calling flop and turn with and leading river? What missed draw is there? 65?
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:53 PM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

lead flop, lead turn or lead flop c/r turn ai...

if i wanted to c/r the flop it would be to like 300 followed by a shove on the turn...
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

After going outside for a break i kept thinking about it and was trying to think of what he could have and i couldn't think of a hand that were gonna beat... ignore my first post. lol
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

I'm pretty sure that I misclicked - meant to make it 250 on the flop. The villain prolly had some like 8x/99/A9/AT/TT, or maybe some kind of a combo draw. However, I could not see myself being good here more than 30% of the time.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: FTP $24 - trips early on, drowning on the river

I would be leading this flop 100ish alot of the time to hopefully get raised, or have the ability to fire a 350 shot on the turn
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