dood I have a str8! (but, meh...)

[Episteme]

< 100 hands on both villains

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

KingAfBorgeby: $1,037.00
me_hungy: $1,197.00
REMTHEALAMO: $1,851.05
supercute11: $901.75
Blitzkrieg Pkr: $1,000.00
Germaniac2: $2,300.50
Hero: $1,162.00
go_G0DZ1LLA: $1,022.00
carpenter2722: $1,132.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4 5 (9 Players)
<font color="red">REMTHEALAMO raises to $35.00</font>, 2 folds, Germaniac2 calls $35.00, Hero calls $35.00, 3 folds, me_hungy calls $25.00

Flop: ($145) K 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
me_hungy checks, REMTHEALAMO checks, Germaniac2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($145) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">me_hungy bets $110.00</font>, REMTHEALAMO folds, Germaniac2 calls $110.00, Hero calls $110.00

River: ($475) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">me_hungy bets $270.00</font>, Germaniac2 calls $270.00, Hero . . .

[Number27]

Call.

[captainwacky]

[ QUOTE ]
Call.

[/ QUOTE ]

if by call you mean fold, then... yes....

[Episteme]

So, believe it or not, the first two responses weren’t of much help to me, as I was already aware of my options. So, I’m going to see if I can do a better job or getting some discussion started.

Argument for calling:
I only need to be good 21% of the time to make this call. The first player could have easily missed a c/r on the flop or have made a set/2 pr. on the turn and is betting it again for value. The price is too good, and I am facing two unknowns who could (for all I know) be incompetent donks.

Argument for mucking:
Even getting 4-1, my hand is never good here. me_hungy is leading the river against two players, both of whom are likely to have been drawing, when all draws were completed on the river. Even considering this, Germaniac2 has elected to call. His range seems heavily weighted toward a straight or small to medium flush that is afraid to raise for value considering the turn/river action. Even if one of these players lost their mind on this hand, it seems like at least one of them has to have at least 54. Also, this is full ring, which plays pretty nitty compared to 6 max.

That was basically my thought process at the time. Any other thoughts?

[KitanaiCALL]

i feel like me_hungry turned a set of 3's, maybe even flopped it and is continuing his aggression and we can safely assume that Germaniac is drawing on the turn (though I can potentially a nitty full ring table player elect to call with two pair). Germaniac wants to showdown badly. I think if im in ur shoes with that price, i payoff with my fingers crossed hoping to see a set and two pair between the two opponents.