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Old 07-27-2007, 06:10 AM
JoeKing JoeKing is offline
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Default 200nl- KK ace on flop

New at table, no reads on villian

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $194.00
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $96.00
MP: $200.70
CO: $200.00
BTN: $80.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, MP calls $17.00

Flop: ($49) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $176.70</font>

Pot Size: $257.70

Anyone think a call can be profitable here? Could villian be doing this with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q, J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J, or even 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10?
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

No. Never ever.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

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No. Never ever.

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But seriously...this is a super easy call.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

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No. Never ever.

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But seriously...this is a super easy call.

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Are you leveling here? Not getting odds to call a reasonable range here and he's just sat at the table.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

I'd put most opponents on 77, 55, AK, maybe random 2 pair, flush. You have 7 outs against a flush and 11 outs against the other hands. You aren't getting odds to call for those outs unless he may be on a random bluff a decent % of the time. But he may actually be attempting a steal because he puts you on KK/QQ/JJ and the ace as well as the 3 flush are scary. I'd personally just fold here until I get a better read on this guy for spots like this.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

What do you think to a c/c or c/r here.

I pokerStoved some hand ranges which may play like this. With these results I'd seriously consider calling.

Board: 7h Ah 5h
Dead:

Hand 0: 61.504% 61.50%
{ KdKh }
Hand 1: 38.496% 38.50%
{ AA, QQ-JJ, 77, 55, AKs, AKo }
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

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Are you leveling here? Not getting odds to call a reasonable range here and he's just sat at the table.

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Not at all.


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Board: Ah 5h 7h
Dead:

Hand 0: 43.768% { KdKh }
Hand 1: 56.23% { AA, QcQh, QdQh, QhQs, 77, 55, AQs+, AQo+)

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Getting 2:1...it's clearly a call.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

I'm seriously doubting he plays QQ/JJ like this , and if he does I'm not giving it much weight in his range anyways (and fyi those hands are the only ones swinging you to being ahead equity wise in that sim).
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:31 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

Even if his range includes sets only (which is ridiculous)...it's still pretty close.

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Board: Ah 7h 5h
Dead:

Hand 0: 32.121% { KdKh }
Hand 1: 67.879% { AA, 77, 55 }

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Old 07-27-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: 200nl- KK ace on flop

Call is fairly close.. I'd fold here though.. I just hate stacking off behind.
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