NL25 turn TPTK nut flush draw vs 2 vilains

[patoof]

I don't know if i played well the turn, maybe check raise or check call are better ?


Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $49.95
MP: $16.15
CO: $26.45
BTN: $22.95
SB: $11.75
BB: $19.05

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, CO calls $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46.45 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $7.45 and is All-In

[Shattered]

Against an unknown, no other way to play it. Nh.

[Profish2285]

Youre probably beat at the time but you definitely have enough outs here to justify this move. Worse case scenario he shows you a set or a straight and you have 9 outs, if he shows you top two you have 12 outs, and if he shows you T8 or whatever then you have 14.

[yeotaJMU]

pretty standard

[patoof]

yes but i am not very worry about free card, if i am ahead they have 6 outs max, so i thought a check/raise can extract more value to weaker hands and a check/call can give me a possibility of preserve a part of my stack if i am behind.
Here if i bet and someone raise me i would likely beaten, and id have to put my whole stack like underdog.

[gfejs]

Hello this is my first post on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I had too register just too ask this question...

The turn raise qualify as a typical Baluga situation where the villian almost never has less then one pair... Isnt it a good idea in this particalar situation too call the min raise or too c/c the turn? The c/c is prolly not a good move but what about a call? u will prolly stack a set or strait on the river anyway (if the flush hits) and u can save some money if u miss and still have one pair on the river...

what do u guys think?

[Ranma4703]

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Hello this is my first post on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I had too register just too ask this question...

The turn raise qualify as a typical Baluga situation where the villian almost never has less then one pair... Isnt it a good idea in this particalar situation too call the min raise or too c/c the turn? The c/c is prolly not a good move but what about a call? u will prolly stack a set or strait on the river anyway (if the flush hits) and u can save some money if u miss and still have one pair on the river...

what do u guys think?

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The pot is so big that you will have to call any river bet, on the chance that he is bluffing. Since he could be raising a draw + pair on the turn, get it in then when you have the most equity.

[Scapegote]

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BTN calls $7.45 and is All-In

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This is the key here, if he had a ton more or whatever it's more difficult, but with your hand you aren't going to fold here and you can't fold for $7.45 on any river, so pushing is the right play, might as well give him a chance to make a huge mistake by folding.

[IAGTTAYM]

This is super standard. You need something like 28-29% to shove, assuming villain never folds.

[patoof]

yeah when i bet the shove is standard but this is not my question
maybe it's bad or at least not optimal to lead the turn (since the shove is standard if there is a raise, and since i will be underdog : vilain never fold after my shove and rarely raise with less than DP)