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Old 08-23-2007, 02:46 PM
dtan05 dtan05 is offline
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Default OESD OOP facing flop raise, rethinking my standard

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $562.15
BB: $428.25
Hero (UTG): $600.00
MP: $1,415.50
CO: $591.00
BTN: $591.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $24.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($57) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $39.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $120.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero</font>

Villain is wrschultz, like at 27/19 over 2k hands, 100bb stacks
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:12 PM
KitanaiCALL KitanaiCALL is offline
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Default Re: OESD OOP facing flop raise, rethinking my standard

i vote - 3bet ALL IN, this is a good spot to try to push villain off his hand with max pressure, if u get called you know you have at least 8 clean outs twice. If u just call the flop bet chances are you are going to c/f if you miss your straight draw, K, or club.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:14 PM
Mench Mench is offline
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Default Re: OESD OOP facing flop raise, rethinking my standard

bet 3 bet is standard i guess, but i agree other lines may be better, villain dependent i think. against villains who bet with their entire range when checked to i might check raise real big on this board.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:45 PM
HiiroYuy HiiroYuy is offline
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Default Re: OESD OOP facing flop raise, rethinking my standard

call, re evaluate on turn.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: OESD OOP facing flop raise, rethinking my standard

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call, re evaluate on turn.

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if this was QT4 rainbow, I would agree a lot... given the texture of this board, his hand range could be a little wider and this 3 betting seems better to me.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:09 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: OESD OOP facing flop raise, rethinking my standard

i like a call and reevaluate too. most of his hands (draws even) are ahead of your hand at this point, and few of them fold to a shove (well maybe stuff like JT/T9 unless it has spades, but thats probably not a raising hand here)

I just dont think you want to play for stacks here just yet, and much of his range will give you action anyhow when you get there.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:30 PM
KitanaiCALL KitanaiCALL is offline
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I just dont think you want to play for stacks here just yet, and much of his range will give you action anyhow when you get there.

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I thought about this statement for 2 min and came to agree. I initially disagreed though because I didn't like the idea of putting 1/5 of our stack out there on a draw oop and plus putting pressure on is always fun. But that was as far as the thinking went..Im leaning towards hoping for the A on the turn as the bigger action card than the 9, a 9 gives a chance for combos of KQ and AQ to muck (not always [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) to aggression.
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