Just lamely giving up on AK...damned pain

[Chomp]

Villain: 20/15/3/1500 hands. Very solid reg, surprised to see he is only just in the green over my sample on him. Definitely a thinking player.

Firstly, the table is full of fish and villain is the only opponent here I fear. Is there ever a case for just not bothering here at all? lol, probably not, but I said to myself afterward, "Why the hell tangle with the only decent player at the table??". Losing big pots to the only reg at the table in a non-nut situation is sinful IMO, so I am kinda torn on this question and it definitely influenced my post flop passivity.

Second, general comments on everything else please. I absolutely hate my line, but I just can't see a turn/river move that doesn't look like spew.

And yes, I considered calling river.


Thanks.

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Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($51.00)
SB Hero ($50.25)
BB ($45.15)
UTG ($62.65)
UTG+1 <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($51.50)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.75, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $5.25.

Flop (14.50) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets $12.00, UTG+1 calls $12.00.

Turn (38.50) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River (38.50) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $18.00, 1 fold

[traz]

standard, you're not folding out whatever he has anyways

[jack492505]

I suck in these spots, but I think I take this same line. I don't think you can get him to fold after the flop. You told him you were going to play for stacks and he called anyway. If he's a thinking opponent he's not doing that without a hand that he's willing to felt. It's a weird line, but obviously don't call the river best you're getting is a chop and that's probably unlikely. Weird spot though interested to hear what others think.

[members_only]

Standard, except why bet so much on the flop?

You could just c/f the flop as well, especially given your worries about playing a big pot vs the only other decent player

[WarhammerIIC]

I'll c-bet about 90% of the flop I see, but this is one where I'll probably pass.

[yapee]

He most often has a pair here and from these most often TT-QQ, so you're probably beat like 90% of the time. Also if he's decent his $18 on the river looks like he's trying to sell you something, which you'd buy with an overpair UI.

[DennisGPunkt]

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I'll c-bet about 90% of the flop I see, but this is one where I'll probably pass.

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hmm... after representing such a strong hand and getting a call I think you have to c-bet here always, because thats the line AA would take. If he calls, ok, you are beat. But you won't win the hand at showdown. I think he has QQ/JJ here alot (and yes, i might would fire another barrel on the turn sometimes).

I do not think he has any kind of a drawing hand.

[corsakh]

Either FPS or your read is off.

You don't think that a thinking player would cold call suited connectors in UTG, call pot on the flop and bluff on the river, do you? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[monkeymaps]

yeah standard this is always QQ JJ or maybe 99
i prob dont c-bet but dont hate it.

[derosnec]

i'm checking this flop most of the time, and not just becaue he called your cbet. if he checks behind, then i'll bet any turn.