JTs, top pair vs tag.

Kimpan · #1 09-13-2007, 05:13 AM

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
CO ($113.51) (23/17/7.49/18) (312h)
BU ($181.18)
BB ($96.86)
UTG ($107.63)
MP ($38.12)
Hero ($120.46)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $4, 1 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $13, CO calls $10.

Flop: ($42) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $28.50, BB folds, CO calls $28.50.

Turn: ($99) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $71.01 (all-in), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $170.01.

dragonystic · #2 09-13-2007, 05:31 AM

if im 3 betting JT, im shoving this turn. villain has less than psb left. make him call off all of his chips.

Scaramouche · #3 09-13-2007, 05:36 AM

His line doesn't make any sense to me. So I probably call...

Kimpan · #4 09-13-2007, 05:37 AM

you think we are ahead here? He seem like a competent player and he sees me 3bing and then leading into 2 opponents.

dragonystic · #5 09-13-2007, 05:45 AM

he could be getting stubborn with 99/77 or AK/AQ.

also keep in mind, his range is a bit wider than normal since he's getting better odds after the BB overcalled. he might have been raising up T9s/98s or some other SC, and wasn't planning on calling a 3bet until BB came in too.

and unless you have an overpair, he might think you whiffed the flop with big cards.

in any case, i think its close, but you gotta call.

wdead · #6 09-13-2007, 06:17 AM

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His line doesn't make any sense to me. So I probably call...

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villain can easily have a set

sixhigh · #7 09-13-2007, 06:47 AM

Def. c/f turn. You are ahead like never here and he isn't folding anything you beat either if you push.
I'd strongly consider checking this flop.

holdme · #8 09-13-2007, 06:55 AM

this is a definite c/c if you're on tilt fyi

dragonystic · #9 09-13-2007, 06:58 AM

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Def. c/f turn. You are ahead like never here and he isn't folding anything you beat either if you push.
I'd strongly consider checking this flop.

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if youre doing this...NEVER 3bet JT.

sixhigh · #10 09-13-2007, 07:11 AM

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Def. c/f turn. You are ahead like never here and he isn't folding anything you beat either if you push.
I'd strongly consider checking this flop.

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if youre doing this...NEVER 3bet JT.

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You recognized the BB just coldcalled, no? And OP is dead against the range CO elects to call the cbet with, so shoving the turn is horrible unless villain is weaktight enough to fold QQ/JJ on the turn. But this is very doubtful considering his stats.

Board: 8c 4d 6h Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.344% 25.34% 00.00% 1104 0.00 { JTs }
Hand 1: 74.656% 74.66% 00.00% 3252 0.00 { TT+, 88, T9s, 98s, 87s }

And this calling range is already very optimistic. And even with this range we need him to have whiffed overcards or other hands that fold the turn >50%.