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12-22-2006, 06:27 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
the one case you could make for calling preflop is that ubernit SB probably isn't gonna fold his AA when the board is safe. However, that also means you have a chance to get set over set. Since there's 2 other dudes in the pot preflop call isn't horrible, but I still fold it. If you want numbers, I guess it really depends on my mood.
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12-22-2006, 06:32 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
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the one case you could make for calling preflop is that ubernit SB probably isn't gonna fold his AA when the board is safe. However, that also means you have a chance to get set over set. Since there's 2 other dudes in the pot preflop call isn't horrible, but I still fold it. If you want numbers, I guess it really depends on my mood. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I want numbers. Based upon your "average" mood, what kind of odds do you need?
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#13
12-22-2006, 06:35 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
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I shove the flop. [/ QUOTE ] If we don't fold the flop, I think it's academic as to whether we call or shove (since we're both pot committed at that point). My real question is whether we might find a fold preflop or even on the flop. Any takers?
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#15
12-22-2006, 07:42 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
well its close, but preflop is ok with position i think (u might be able to take away the pot if sb has AK or something and misses)
however i would just shove the flop, on this draw-heavy board u will get called almost always.
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#17
12-22-2006, 08:03 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
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well its close, but preflop is ok with position i think (u might be able to take away the pot if sb has AK or something and misses) however i would just shove the flop, on this draw-heavy board u will get called almost always. [/ QUOTE ] Would I also shove with AA? If no, then how is my hand any better than AA?
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#18
12-22-2006, 08:22 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
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[ QUOTE ] well its close, but preflop is ok with position i think (u might be able to take away the pot if sb has AK or something and misses) however i would just shove the flop, on this draw-heavy board u will get called almost always. [/ QUOTE ] Would I also shove with AA? If no, then how is my hand any better than AA? [/ QUOTE ] It beats KQ and has redraws against a flush/straight. And since you don't have AA now, someone else can have it. That said, you should shove AA preflop.
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12-22-2006, 08:29 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
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[ QUOTE ] the one case you could make for calling preflop is that ubernit SB probably isn't gonna fold his AA when the board is safe. However, that also means you have a chance to get set over set. Since there's 2 other dudes in the pot preflop call isn't horrible, but I still fold it. If you want numbers, I guess it really depends on my mood. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I want numbers. Based upon your "average" mood, what kind of odds do you need? [/ QUOTE ] Here you get about 3:1 on your money. You'll have to make about 800$ postflop for the 125$ call to be correct. With two other players seemingly liking their hands with 1100 resp 900 left in their stacks I think you can call preflop. The pot is big enough to make them committ if they hit a good TP or OP. Given that you're in position I see no problem with calling preflop here.
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#20
12-22-2006, 08:33 AM
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Re: OMG, look at these boobies! ($5/$10)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] well its close, but preflop is ok with position i think (u might be able to take away the pot if sb has AK or something and misses) however i would just shove the flop, on this draw-heavy board u will get called almost always. [/ QUOTE ] Would I also shove with AA? If no, then how is my hand any better than AA? [/ QUOTE ] It beats KQ and has redraws against a flush/straight. And since you don't have AA now, someone else can have it. That said, you should shove AA preflop. [/ QUOTE ] What flush or straight draws do you put him on? It's hard for me to conceive of anything. Further, even if he does have a draw (very low chance), who makes that semi-bluff against two opponents who have both represented a lot of strength preflop? Surely, if he has a draw, he can't ever expect both opponents to fold. All said, I can put him on only AA, KK, or QQ--with maybe a 10% chance of any other hand. Am I being way too narrow. If you think so, please explain.
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