$3/$6 no limit. AK facing all in bet....

[furyshade]

i hate the idea if going broke one 1 pair, no draw, if you put aside all of the other stuff, does he have AA or KQ or a flush draw or whatnot, its going broke with TPTK, though i have never played $3/$6 so i cant say what that kind of game is, just one of the first cash game rules i learned after being a tournament player was dont go broke usually with 1 pair like you can in tournaments, obviously this has exceptions and this may be one, just my opinion

[Reef]

vs lagtard = call

[Spencer C]

also, does your analysis take into account that folding is guaranteed to lose you the $50 you already invested in this pot? never leave kids in the street

[Big_Jim]

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does your analysis take into account that folding is guaranteed to lose you the $50 you already invested in this pot?

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I hope not, because that would make it incorrect.

[jlkrusty]

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does your analysis take into account that folding is guaranteed to lose you the $50 you already invested in this pot?

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I hope not, because that would make it incorrect.

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Spencer, no. I did not take into account any amount I had already "invested." To me, once the money is bet, it is dead, and it is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the size of the pot, the amount to call, and my expected equity in winning the hand. I guess there are some meta game considerations as well (which I did not take into account). Do you think I should have taken my previous investment into account?

I do, however, have to make one correction. There is no possibility of villain holding K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. The K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is already on the board. Further, I do not accept the possibility that villain is holding any other KQ. I just don't think that he'll go all in with that hand.

I don't even know how pokerstove calculated the last simulation since it is impossible for villain to have K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Anyhow, run again without the impossible hand creates nearly identical results:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

27,720 games 0.016 secs 1,732,500 games/sec

Board: Kd 8d 6h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 46.8236 % 36.35% 10.47% { AcKs }
Hand 2: 53.1764 % 42.71% 10.47% { QQ+, JcJd, JdJh, JdJs, 88, 66, AKs, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, AKo }

Assuming these hands above, our $402 call will net on average $424--an EV of +$22.

[jlkrusty]

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i love how all the weaktights are giving him a perfect tag range of everything beating us and nothing we beat.

this guy probably has TT-KK and is sick of getting overcarded.

a 3.7 agg factorover a vpip of 55 is maniacally aggressive. you cannot fold TPTK to him.

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Do you at least acknowledge that this is a fold against a TAG?

[zatacka]

never call preflop if you are folding this flop...

[john kane]

if your near the end of your session and haven't used your disconnect protect, then just turn off the modem.

problem solved.

[Requin]

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never call preflop if you are folding this flop...

[/ QUOTE ]Um I don't think this needed to be bumped. But that statement is not true at all. Villain won't always overbet shove, which tells us something we didnt know preflop. Also, an A is a much better card to hit than a K.