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#2
11-25-2007, 04:10 PM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
Raise flop, Raise turn (shove or whatever) and be happy about both.
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#3
11-25-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
I like a 3 bet on flop. If you don't do that, you pretty pretty much have to raise all in on turn, or you're play is exploitable against this guy.
I actually prefer a flop raise though because. 1. You tame this guy a bit in future against you. 2. You're probably ahead or at least near even money against a huge draw he might have. 3. You're not going to like so many turn cards. 4. He's tricky. You want to put him to decisions, not the other way around.
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#4
11-25-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
couple thoughts, tough hand.
while i'm tempted to take this line to maintain control i think a flop 3 bet on this board is better under different circumstances (for instance, if we raise UTG+1 and this villain is the sole caller from the BB) where we would tend to make this play with a wider range to exert maximum pressure. in this situation however i feel that he can show up with a lot of suited junk and several 5x's (well amongst a ton of other hands) given the description so i want to keep the pot a bit smaller and encourage bluffs even if flatting his raise does narrow our hand range somewhat. once he fires this specific turn i am quite concerned. for he will realize that on this board we are often shoving over or folding to his bet, and given stack sizes this will not allow him to call with any draws he may possess, which would be a fairly gross misjudgement on his part. so i think he's further narrowed to hands > AA and air now? without any knowledge on his barrelling tendencies i'm not really sure whether a turn fold or call/decide on river is best here.
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#5
11-25-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
no i still dont understand a flop 3bet. if we think he fires $300 on the turn with his entire range, why would we say no to that and make him give up on his bluff?
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#6
11-25-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
dude just call call call and say shtt if he sucked out somewhere along the way
if he's bluffing, there are a lot of cards he thinks are "scare cards" and will go bombs away too. at least if he's somewhat spewy like you said.
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#7
11-26-2007, 02:59 AM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
pretty gross? lol
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#8
11-26-2007, 03:00 AM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
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pretty gross? lol [/ QUOTE ] These sort of retarded one-liners are really bringing MSNL down.
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#10
11-26-2007, 12:37 PM
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Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag
I dont know why people are so happy about getting 200bb in vs a tough lag here. I donīt think you can rule out a 5 or 44 that easily from his range 200bb deep to a 3way flop. I think by the turn you are either drawing close to dead or he has alot of outs. I would need a very good read to get it in here fwiw.
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