A hand that I butchered....ughh (25/50)

[trambopoline]

If I dont 4 bet all in pre (or make it like 2200/call shove) then Id definitely bet/call flop, especially if donk from BB shoves.

[snakekilla88]

If you bet flop how do you respond to a checkraise from SB? Is it okay to safely bet 1/2 pot and fold to further SB action. Are should I be felting?

Yeah, mandatory flop bet if I just call preflop, sigh.

[cts]

what makes you think bb is bad? ppl usually have pretty damn strong hands when they cc here

[hoppscot22]

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what makes you think bb is bad? ppl usually have pretty damn strong hands when they cc here

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this was my initial reaction

[snakekilla88]

cts he seemed like a spewtard at lower stakes. One hand he raised utg at 10/25 and calls a 3bet against a tight player with Q10o, then basically played the flop like a retard.

[Eagles]

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what makes you think bb is bad? ppl usually have pretty damn strong hands when they cc here

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Agree 4betting pf seems pretty terrible here. If you 4bet the 3better prob has to think you range is a lot tighter than normal beuase of the cold call and should prob fold QQ and AK. If you 4bet its basically a bluff.

[fsuplayer]

if sb is foil and bb is a donk, than not 3 betting is a mistake i think.

esp if you are not bet/calling that flop.

edit: against two other players, then obv just calling pf is better

[fsuplayer]

wow, against foil i would 3bet/hoverfingeroverthecallbuttonfistpumpetc pf.

and id fold river prob, although im hating life when i do.