Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism

[andyfox]

So then Japan would not have been justified in actively fighting American imperialism. Why, then, because some people were calling for the death of one person in Sudan does that become a justification for "active[ly] fighting Islamo-fascism"?

[ConstantineX]

Some people? This lunacy seems endemic across all sorts of Muslim cultures, and their immigration and lack of assimilation is going to stress that other bastion of Western civilization across the pond. You seem to take their very primitive barbarism lightly, but contort yourself to find the barbarity in US foreign policy reasonable people can disagree over (like the bomb).

[xorbie]

It's quite apparent to me these people in Sudan are "worse" than Americans during WWII, I just don't see how actively fighting them is going to make it any better.

[The once and future king]

In other news a man is sentenced to death in North Korea for making a long distance telephone call while at work.

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In October, the North executed the head of a factory in South Pyongan province for making international calls on 13 phones he installed in a factory basement, the aid group said. He was executed by a firing squad in a stadium before a crowd of 150,000.

Six people were crushed to death and 34 others injured in an apparent stampede as they left the stadium, the aid group said.

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Dont drink and, wait just dont dial.

[valenzuela]

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In other news a man is sentenced to death in North Korea for making a long distance telephone call while at work.

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In October, the North executed the head of a factory in South Pyongan province for making international calls on 13 phones he installed in a factory basement, the aid group said. He was executed by a firing squad in a stadium before a crowd of 150,000.

Six people were crushed to death and 34 others injured in an apparent stampede as they left the stadium, the aid group said.

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Dont drink and, wait just dont dial.

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sigh...

[andyfox]

I don't have to contort myself to find barbarity in killing 100,000 people in one night. How does that compare with the demonstration in Sudan? My point was that if OP thinks the demonstration in Sudan is a "perfect" reason to be fighting in Iraq (that's apparently where we need to be to go after the Islamo-Fascists), what should Japan have done when millions of Americans felt they should be exterminated after we firebombed of nuked all of their cities?

[Rick Nebiolo]

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So then Japan would not have been justified in actively fighting American imperialism.

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American Imperialism? In the Western Pacific against Japan's interest? Or did we take actions to counter Japanese imperialism (albeit minimal prior to 1941)?


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Why, then, because some people were calling for the death of one person in Sudan does that become a justification for "active[ly] fighting Islamo-fascism"?

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Combine this incident along with thousands of others and the stated intentions of Islamic leaders and it seems we are headed toward an epic clash of civilizations and cultures.

In "The End of Faith" Sam Harris noted that when Salman Rushdie was condemned to death by the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1989 after publishing "Satanic Versus" there was little or no "moderate Islam" speaking out against this decree. That's because in Islam apostasy or speaking out against Islam justifies a death sentence. Harris contends there is no "moderate Islam", just an Islam that previously didn't have enough power to carry out it's goals (essentially to subjugate the entire world).

Unfortunately that's changing.

~ Rick

[andyfox]

If the Japanese had seen us as an imperalist power, seen us in Korea and Vietnam, and against the background of us having killed 100,000 people in Tokyo in one night, another 75,000 in Hiroshima and 35,000 in Nagasaki, and seen that millions of Americans had been in favor of exterminating the Japanese and expressed disappointment that they had surrendered before we had a chance to use many more atomic weapons against them, would this be as "perfect" a reason for them to go after us as the demonstrations in Sudan are for fighting Islamo-fascism?