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#11
07-12-2007, 01:21 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
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Calling with the suited gapper has to be better than folding with almost 3-1 pot odds. You could resteal, but I am not sure if calling isn't better. [/ QUOTE ] I think a re-steal is bad, because I will be forced to call her shove if I re-steal. I raise to 3,000 and she shoves, then its only 4,000 more to me into a pot with more than 9,500 already. 
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#12
07-12-2007, 01:26 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
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[ QUOTE ] Calling with the suited gapper has to be better than folding with almost 3-1 pot odds. You could resteal, but I am not sure if calling isn't better. [/ QUOTE ] If you push, she is calling 5100 to win 8600, so 1.7-1 pot odds. I think she sometimes folds, but the call may be better. I think a re-steal is bad, because I will be forced to call her shove if I re-steal. I raise to 3,000 and she shoves, then its only 4,000 more to me into a pot with more than 9,500 already. [/ QUOTE ]
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#14
07-12-2007, 06:27 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
I've never played with her, but shoving preflop is probably pretty +EV. It would depend on the previous hands that I had seen her play. Also I would never fold pf against someone that I think is smart enough to be aggressive here on the button, my only decisions are whether to call or shove.
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#15
07-12-2007, 10:49 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
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[ QUOTE ] Preflop es muy malo. [/ QUOTE ] Does this mean it's turd? If so, I concur. [/ QUOTE ] It means "very bad" And no it's not. Calling getting 3:1 against a weak player is fine.
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#17
07-12-2007, 11:09 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Preflop es muy malo. [/ QUOTE ] Does this mean it's turd? If so, I concur. [/ QUOTE ] It means "very bad" And no it's not. Calling getting 3:1 against a weak player is fine. [/ QUOTE ] No, it's definitely bad. (to back up the point: we're not connecting often enough, she's not folding after the flop often enough, and no/very little implied odds)
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#18
07-12-2007, 11:16 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
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Preflop es muy malo. [/ QUOTE ] Si, si, si
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#19
07-12-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
Fold I really can't see anything you beat here unless she's really randomly bluffing
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#20
07-13-2007, 12:01 AM
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Re: $1060 WSOP, river decision against Shannon Elizabeth
I think folding preflop is just wrong. You are risking 800 to win 2200, and you really don't need to flop that big with these stack sizes.
Ok against some very VERY tight players it may be reasonable to fold, and I am not that familiar with Shannon's play. I do know however that she runs terribly, like really really unbelievably badly, so it can never be wrong to play against her, even with well the worst of it.
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