200NL 2 pair river decision

ItsTime4Nutz · #1 11-12-2007, 05:42 PM

Villain is 45/13/1.3 over 350 hands
Bet turn is probably better here, but i check it w the intention to bet river if he checks or to call a bet.
Can i fold this river actually, since he is raising only 13% and his agression is only 1.3.

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($353.48)
CO ($279.80)
Hero ($204.75)
SB ($197.10)
BB ($191.75)
UTG ($604.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, 2 folds.

Flop: ($15) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $10, Hero raises to $30, MP calls $20.

Turn: ($75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $75, Hero calls $75.

Final Pot: $225

immesan · #2 11-12-2007, 05:55 PM

turn bet is mandatory!!!!!!!!!! if he c/r trun then you have decision to make...you butchered the hand...as played call is fine

Syntec87 · #3 11-12-2007, 05:56 PM

probably b/f turn

Imrahil · #4 11-12-2007, 05:57 PM

Fold river. Don't mind a turn check.

stickdude · #5 11-12-2007, 05:57 PM

I'm not wild about the cold-call preflop.

Flop is fine.

Turn is the reason I don't like the preflop call - KQ/KJ are definitely in his opening range. Anything but an Ace/King on the turn, and I think it's a mandatory bet. Checking behind for pot control is ok. Betting would be ok, too, but you'd be in a tough spot if he check-raises.

After you check the turn, he'll fire at the river with a pretty wide range, so I like the call.

Imrahil · #6 11-12-2007, 05:58 PM

Ya fold pf too.

orange · #7 11-12-2007, 06:00 PM

wtf? we have top 2? pf is poor but i'm probably just b/c-ing the turn v. this retard.

ItsTime4Nutz · #8 11-12-2007, 06:10 PM

the problem here is his river bet size its like nutz or bluff
imho

JFsports · #9 11-12-2007, 06:12 PM

I'd fold pre, and fold the river. I would definitely bet the turn

Merlinius · #10 11-12-2007, 06:14 PM

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wtf? we have top 2? pf is poor but i'm probably just b/c-ing the turn v. this retard.

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we don't have top 2 on the turn. bet/fold is best imo. except KT and AA i can't think of a hand that would possibly c/r the turn that we beat. And both hands have a couple of outs against us.