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Old 09-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Harry Fong Harry Fong is offline
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Default QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $9.56</u>
<u>BB: $5.95</u>
UTG: $12.17
<u>MP: $1.90</u>
CO: $4.60
BTN: $5.49

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on any villain though have noticed they fit the typical donk profile
Hero is running at 11.5/6.5/3</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Fold, call, 3b, push?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

Is this a joke or a mistype somewhere?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:31 AM
choccypie choccypie is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $9.56</u>
<u>BB: $5.95</u>
UTG: $12.17
<u>MP: $1.90</u>
CO: $4.60
BTN: $5.49

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on any villain though have noticed they fit the typical donk profile
Hero is running at 11.5/6.5/3</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Fold, call, 3b, push?

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Where's the flop?

Raise QQ pf obv...
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

i almost always fold here
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:06 PM
Harry Fong Harry Fong is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

Sorry, my bad.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $9.56</u>
<u>BB: $5.95</u>
UTG: $12.17
<u>MP: $1.90</u>
CO: $4.60
BTN: $5.49

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on any villain
Hero is running at 11.5/6.5/3</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.30</font>, BB calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.80</font>, BB calls $0.80, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $1.60</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Fold, call, 3b, push?
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:13 PM
ThaHero ThaHero is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

There are some draws on the board, and it's a decent pot. Who knows what MP has but I'm not folding to a shortstacks all in. They do this with all sorts of stuff. I'm a little weary of what BB has. Could be a set, a draw, anything. This is where reads help. I think I'd push, maybe call sometimes since we have position and can check turn, but given his stack size, if he calls he'll be left with about a PSB anyway. Maybe push is the right answer.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

The pot is big and you are now committed. You have an overpair. FD is big part of BB range here with PF action minimizing the chance of AA,KK.

Push to protect your hand. A lot of worse hands will still come along.

This pretty standard.

Edit - You need a monster read to fold. Like Villain is 15/5/0 and then he flashes his set early. Which is pretty tough online.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:03 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

not sure how bad they are at 5NL but yeah I think pushing here is best. Been a long time since I was there.....

It's for protection and cuz the guy behind you is on a draw at least some of the time. OOP easy push.
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Old 09-23-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair meets heavy flop action

I make it .35 pf and around .9 on flop.

I don't mind getting it in here.
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