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Old 09-07-2007, 03:02 AM
surfdoc surfdoc is offline
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Checkraise the river is better than 4 betting the turn and folding to a 5. You can still fold to a 3 bet and you save the hastle of the board killing your hand. Your description of this guy though doesn't seem like the type to 3 bet for a free SD OR 3 bet the turn with one pair. I guess you have to decide then how his psyche is after seeing you get out of line. In other words, is he angry or tilty? Did he seem very pissed whe you showed him the old 32o?

Who was it?
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:08 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

the problem with trying to c/r safe rivers is that players like this (from what ive read so far) will 3 bet AA out of anger (not in their nature) on the turn here but then "come to their senses" and irrationally check behind on the river.

my first instinct with this hand was call the 3 bet and donk-decide safe rivers and now i think ive formulated exactly why.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:49 AM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Mike you know who this hand was against right?

If I played this hand against this player it would be much closer to a fold to the turn 3bet and the river raise than to put in more action.
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Forgot about this - I cry called the river raise while saying "nice hand totally owned me" and then he showed KK. Everyone that knows him agrees he lost his mind but I thought it was a good hand to post anyway despite the personal read.

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Old 09-07-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

I'm confused here by these responses

he is passive + you have only shown down monsters with your turn checkraises = you are probably behind here and should not 3 bet

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Old 09-07-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

call and c/r a good river.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

call, c/c or c/r/f

But can you make that fold in that pot there?

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Old 09-13-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

I've never played this high before, but call turn, call river? reraising gets only 1 extra bet from AA/KK/AQ, but puts you in a very difficult spot against QQ/TT if capped, maybe KJ/AK/AQ w/ f draw. If you get capped, you may have to pay off a few more bets. Reraising may make him be able to make a hero fold w/ AA or KK, and you need those hands in his range on a river bet. There are a lot of cards to be afraid of on the river, so keep the pot small.
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