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#91
10-16-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: watch the POTRIPPER hh in PXF replayer
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I really dont want this on youtube. [/ QUOTE ] 2nd 
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#94
10-16-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: watch the POTRIPPER hh in PXF replayer
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I actually enjoyed watching the normal players make plays. It would be awesome to watch a "normal" tournament in this format [/ QUOTE ] No one's making normal plays though because of potripper.
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#95
10-16-2007, 03:08 PM
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Re: watch the POTRIPPER hh in PXF replayer
I guess we know what Ivies account looks like
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#97
10-16-2007, 03:49 PM
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Re: watch the POTRIPPER hh in PXF replayer
This thread is odd because it mainly consists of people saying "x is obvious" (where x is the proposition that Potripper could see hole cards) and either (a) not giving any evidence for x being true; or (b) giving evidence that does not support the claim; or (c) suggesting x is true because x is believed; or (d) evincing a lack of understanding of technology.
(a) I think comprises the majority of posts. People say either "x is clearly true" or even, bizarrely, "x is clearly true so we should do a statistical test to prove it." (c) is also kind of common. As to (b), the post below is a typical example. The poster argues that a called all-in against a busted flush is evidence that caller could see hole cards. A player without access to hole cards might play this the same way. Where a player reads that another player had a flush draw that busted, it is not unreasonable to call with ten high. Here, a player without access to the hole cards might have read the betting by CrazyMarco as inconsistent with playing for a high hand and inconsistent with a set. When the river came not a heart, there was a significant chance that CrazyMarco only had a busted flush. The call seems reasonable in that situation. To be surer, it would make sense to find out CrazyMarco's betting patterns as observed by Potripper. Had CrazyMarco been consistently going all-in in such situations where a busted flush seemed likely, then the call is even more reasonable. Thus, although there may be evidence that a player could see others' hole cards, I have not seen any actual posts that adduce such evidence. [ QUOTE ] Last hand: Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:48 (ET) Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips) Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips) POTRIPPER - Ante $450 CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450 POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250 CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500 *** POCKET CARDS *** Dealt to CRAZYMARCO [9h 2h] POTRIPPER - Calls $2250 CRAZYMARCO - Checks *** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh] CRAZYMARCO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $9000 CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000 *** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s] CRAZYMARCO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $13500 CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310 POTRIPPER - Calls $186810 *** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s] *** SHOW DOWN *** [b]POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings) CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings) POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot [/ QUOTE ]
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#99
10-16-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: watch the POTRIPPER hh in PXF replayer
Hand 80, he's in the HJ w/KQo and everyone folds to him and he folds...??? He's opened w/72o and absolute JUNK, but this time he folds w/a decent hand. The SB had AA.......... Super user???
There is no way he folds KQo when his range for opening is HUGH and he's in relatively late position....
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#100
10-16-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: watch the POTRIPPER hh in PXF replayer
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As to (b), the post below is a typical example. The poster argues that a called all-in against a busted flush is evidence that caller could see hole cards. [/ QUOTE ] Yet in the example you are citing, it is not a busted flush. DUCY? [ QUOTE ] Last hand: Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:48 (ET) Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips) Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips) POTRIPPER - Ante $450 CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450 POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250 CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500 *** POCKET CARDS *** Dealt to CRAZYMARCO [9h 2h] POTRIPPER - Calls $2250 CRAZYMARCO - Checks *** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh] CRAZYMARCO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $9000 CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000 *** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s] CRAZYMARCO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $13500 CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310 POTRIPPER - Calls $186810 *** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s] *** SHOW DOWN *** POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings) CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings) POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A player without access to hole cards might play this the same way. Where a player reads that another player had a flush draw that busted, it is not unreasonable to call with ten high. [/ QUOTE ] Uh-huh. K.
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