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Old 11-22-2007, 12:41 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Equity quiz.

You have AA vs average player. Flop is 9d 8c 4c.

A) what is a typical range that villain will check/call a bet with ?
B) what is your equity against that range? (No pokerstove!)
C) Now you have A9 on the same flop. What is your equity ?
D) Since we couldn't use pokerstove for this quiz, list at least 2 factors that you used to conclude on an equity number.

edit: Ranges for A) are not the most important part of this quiz. Assume if you want that you opened in 2nd position and he called in the BB
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:49 AM
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A) I don't get by calling range? What will Villain call a bet with? (I'd get it against any hand).
B)If Villain pushes? probably around 62% Do we have the club?
C)It's probably lower because he can play it the same way with TJ.
D) A few factors I used. Draw heavy board. Whether we have the Club to the nut flush. The possibility that Villain has overs in the A9 hand.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Quick quiz

A few clarifying questions:
Which ace do i have?
A)What do you mean by typical calling range? What a typical player calls with? And what is a typical player?
Assuming 100bb stacks? Preflop action?
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:52 AM
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Edited for clarity. I meant what range check/calls the flop on that board assuming a normal (weakish passive) SSNL player.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:53 AM
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Which ace do i have?

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Doesn't matter for the question. Estimating the equity of all AA combos is not much harder than for a single AA combo
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:53 AM
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More info? Stacks? Bets preflop? Villain tight or loose?

At the end of the day, you compare likely hands vs what beats you vs what you beat.

If you end up with lots of hands you beat that match, you have high equity, if you match lots of hands you loose to you have low equity. About the only way to do it on the table.

Not enough information to give a fair range of 'likely' hands to go through that process though.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:57 AM
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eh...how did we get to the flop again?
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:57 AM
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A) Depends on stacks to pot ratio, and previous action but say

99,88,44
TJc, 67c,56c,AKc,
89s
QQ+

Does that work ? Now let me think about the next questions.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:59 AM
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A) Depends on stacks to pot ratio, and previous action but say

99,88,44
TJc, 67c,56c,AKc,
89s
QQ+

Does that work ? Now let me think about the ne

xt questions.

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Yeah, that's a good start. BTW, the range you chose is a bit too tight for an unknown IMO.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:10 AM
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A) Depends on stacks to pot ratio, and previous action but say

99,88,44
TJc, 67c,56c,AKc,
89s
QQ+

Does that work ? Now let me think about the ne

xt questions.

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Yeah, that's a good start. BTW, the range you chose is a bit too tight for an unknown IMO.

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yes, its way too tight and our equity is great since any better hands raise that flop, same goes with a9 except for the times when he plays TT passively pre-flop and post-flop.
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