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Old 11-13-2006, 07:01 AM
karpov karpov is offline
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Default Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

5 handed game, in a previous hand David 3bet on the buttom with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. 20 minutes later UTG raised and David 3 bets. I'm in BB with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and made a very loose call, UTG calls. Flop Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. David bet, call, call. Turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. David bet, I call and UTG fold. River 7 : [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Do you bet or check raise?
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

im checkraising that flop every time if i see the flop which im rarely doing.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:14 AM
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im checkraising that flop every time if i see the flop which im rarely doing.

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Old 11-13-2006, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

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im checkraising that flop every time if i see the flop which im rarely doing.

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Oh and I'm leading the river.
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:35 AM
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Oh and I'm leading the river.

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yup.
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

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im checkraising that flop every time if i see the flop which im rarely doing.

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Am I missing something here? A bad PF call puts him in a weak postflop situation... he flops BP + BDFD and is supposed to ChR? At least one of those opponents likely has a pair or a 10 outer against you and won't/shouldn't fold, so what exactly does one accomplish?
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

id say bet the river assuming david is a really good player and will fold pairs decent pairs to your cr. its a spot where you just arent bluffing. he will check behind a lot of weak pairs (proly up to a10) and obv ace highs. he may call with those if you bet given the big pot. of course i have no idea how david plays (tho i did play with him once)
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:16 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

bottom pair of sevens overcard kicker bdfd is a nice flop 5 handed. both raisers can easily have an A or be reverse dominated with a big K. also preflop raisers will likely put bb on a bigger hand for him to be c/ring them on that flop after calling two cold preflop. so this c/r might get it heads up, plus it will have serious deception value if hero has been playing sensibly so far. that's a lot of power from one small bet investment extra. the only good play on this flop is to c/r. calling is so weak you will get eaten alive playing that way, and folding is out of the question. donk betting is obviously silly. so the only play is c/r.
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

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bottom pair of sevens overcard kicker bdfd is a nice flop 5 handed. both raisers can easily have an A or be reverse dominated with a big K. also preflop raisers will likely put bb on a bigger hand for him to be c/ring them on that flop after calling two cold preflop. so this c/r might get it heads up, plus it will have serious deception value if hero has been playing sensibly so far. that's a lot of power from one small bet investment extra. the only good play on this flop is to c/r. calling is so weak you will get eaten alive playing that way, and folding is out of the question. donk betting is obviously silly. so the only play is c/r.

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mike if you c/r and he 3-bets its an obvious fold, correct?
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio: Hand against David Sklansky LH 100-200

I think the preflop call is pretty bad.

The river should not have helped your hand, so a checkraise probably works. Whether or not he pays off with a worse hand i don't know.
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