Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:11 AM
BlackAMEX BlackAMEX is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 487
Default 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

Villian is 42/22/6.

Is CRAI or turn lead for 1/2 pot better here?

I think by CRAI we let him know we have Jx here, and if he has Jx, he's stacking off anyways no matter what line we take. By weak leading we may be able to rep a pp trying to get to showdown cheap rather than JJ, and hope that he pushes as with a wider range of weaker hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($197)
Hero ($202.05)
BB ($168)
UTG ($186)
MP ($265.75)
CO ($256.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $12.

Flop: ($34) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $42</font>, Hero calls $21.

Turn: ($118) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:20 AM
shpanko shpanko is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mile High Club
Posts: 4,726
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

If you bet I'd bet like 30 and try to get him to push. tbh crai is good because any bet will have made him commit mroe than half his stack so he shouldn't be folding often
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:22 AM
cheer cheer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: thinking everyone is bluffing
Posts: 1,064
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

bet. make his low jack or mid PP pay you off bet for around 3/4 pot IMO. if you bet weak he could be getting odds to draw to a flush.

edit: sorry i didn't see stack sizes. push.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:25 AM
natzucowww natzucowww is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 500
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

c-rizzle all dizzle, if he has a jack he's stacking off, but you don't want to scare him with his tens by leading the turn. maybe he gets crazy and pots the turn when you check it to him.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:26 AM
orange orange is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: University of NE Lincoln/Omaha
Posts: 19,438
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

i might weak lead. $55. or c/r is fine too.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:29 AM
staticc staticc is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

I like leading the turn weak...

With the way the hand has played out Villain pretty much has a pocket pair or Jx. We need not worry about Jx - the money is going in regardless. With this in mind, I think seeing as you called his flop minraise there is a good chance he may check behind, so I like leading the turn weak... If he has nothing he will fold and it is unlikely you were getting any more value anyway. If he has a PP which is the only likely hand here besides Jx he will be tempted to call here as the 5 would mean 66+ may still be good.

Though I could be wrong cause this is my first post here :P
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:34 AM
aislephive aislephive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: And now the children are asleep
Posts: 6,874
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

Yeah I lead turn for 1/2 pot or something.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-03-2007, 12:42 AM
tkdcrew tkdcrew is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 2 yrs behind Urindanger
Posts: 97
Default Re: 200nl: Lead turn or CRAI to extract?

lead the turn. chunk him into getting it in on the river
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.